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azadi

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It is the United Kingdom that is a member of the EU, not Great Britain. The UK and GB are not the same thing.

The full official name of Great Britain is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is the colloquial name of the union. In addition, the name United Kingdom is too generic. Any monarchy, which is a union of several countries, can be called United Kingdom.
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The full official name of Great Britain is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is the colloquial name of the union. In addition, the name United Kingdom is too generic. Any monarchy, which is a union of several countries, can be called United Kingdom.

The United Kingdom is the recognised short-form name - please don’t use Great Britain as the name except in a geographical or historic sense.

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Are you intentionally just using Great Britain so much now just to annoy us?

If you really hate to say United Kingdom or even UK, you could say “Great Britain and Northern Ireland” or GB&Ni

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Are you intentionally just using Great Britain so much now just to annoy us?

If you really hate to say United Kingdom or even UK, you could say “Great Britain and Northern Ireland” or GB&Ni

I prefer saying Great Britain, because Great Britain is rarely called the United Kingdom in the rest of the world. I'm used to saying Great Britain as a German Kurd.
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I prefer saying Great Britain, because Great Britain is rarely called the United Kingdom in the rest of the world. I'm used to saying Great Britain as a German Kurd.

When used by a foreigner it can come across as a sign of ignorance, similar to when Americans confuse England and the United Kingdom, calling me English.

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When used by a foreigner it can come across as a sign of ignorance, similar to when Americans confuse England and the United Kingdom, calling me English.

Why is the UK being called Great Britain offensive to you? None of the other British members of the forum have ever objected to me calling the UK Great Britain. 
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I don't want to sound ignorant, but to the best of my knowledge, Great Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales. So the problem is with those from Northern Ireland, which is on the island of Ireland. Should they be called British as well? After all, Great Britain and Ireland are the most significant parts of the British Isles.

Anyway, there hasn't been another United Kingdom since the 19th century, I believe, so everyone should instantly know which one is being meant.
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I don't want to sound ignorant, but to the best of my knowledge, Great Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales. So the problem is with those from Northern Ireland, which is on the island of Ireland. Should they be called British as well? After all, Great Britain and Ireland are the most significant parts of the British Isles.

Anyway, there hasn't been another United Kingdom since the 19th century, I believe, so everyone should instantly know which one is being meant.

You're right. But I prefer using the name of the country itself, which is Great Britain, rather than the United Kingdom, which is a description of the form of government of Great Britain. Those among the people of Northern Ireland, who are loyal to Great Britain, are actually called Britons. 
I personally prefer the Federal Kingdom of Great Britain to become the official name of Great Britain, because Scotland and Wales have obtained home rule.
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Whatever personal "preference" one has is immaterial.  The official name of the country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  Great Britain is only part of the Kingdom, and is not at all correct as the "name of the country".  There is no such thing as a "Federal Kingdom of GB" because to rename a country requires a legal act, and that is not likely to happen ever. Let's stay in the realm of reality.  The United Kingdom is a correct shortened name, Great Britain is sometimes used but is incorrect as it excludes a significant integral part of the Kingdom.
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Whatever personal "preference" one has is immaterial.  The official name of the country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  Great Britain is only part of the Kingdom, and is not at all correct as the "name of the country".  There is no such thing as a "Federal Kingdom of GB" because to rename a country requires a legal act, and that is not likely to happen ever. Let's stay in the realm of reality.  The United Kingdom is a correct shortened name, Great Britain is sometimes used but is incorrect as it excludes a significant integral part of the Kingdom.

Which colloquial name of the British union do most Britons prefer?
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We're not fussy, Britain or UK is what you mostly hear. Few bother to say Great Britain.
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I agree with Peter. Saying Great Britain is unusual, but Britain or the UK is fine.
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Then I will call it Britain in the future.
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Then I will call it Britain in the future.

Thank you

Btw, in English, federalism and home rule are contradictory terms.
In federalism smaller local governments give power to a the higher federal government.
In home rule, a higher unitary government devolvea power down to smaller local government.

As such, the UK, even with its sub-governments, is still a Unitary state

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I'm not speaking about unlikely changes in public opinions. I'm speaking about current German Euroscepticism, the fact, that Poland, Hungary, Denmark and Sweden haven't joined the Eurozone and the fact, that Orban prevented EU refugee quotas. In addition, Germany and France are currently far less hostile to Russia than Great Britain is. Germany and France supported the readmission of Russia to the Council of Europe.
I don't want the EU to evolve into a federation. I want the EU to remain a union of sovereign states. But if the EU evolves into a federation, I want King Felipe to become the figurehead Emperor of Europe.


neither do i want eu to become a federation, but lets say theoretically. then i think the spanish king as emperor of europe would not be the best solution. (not the worst either of course) i think it then better to be a post that should rotate between european monarchs and pretenders to empty thrones of european countries, like in malaysia where the title of yang di pertuan agong high king of malaysia rotates between the 9 reiging sultans of sub sultanates. a spanish royal family would only represent spain and catholisism. a rotating system would allow anglicans, lutherans calvinists  and orthodox people of other nationalities to be represented as well. 
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