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AaronTraas

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I dislike Protestantism and liberalism. Britain is a stronghold of Protestantism and liberalism. I support authoritarian nationalism. I prefer Putin and Franco to Churchill. I support the establishment of Putinist regimes in France and Italy. Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini are Putinists.
I dislike Islam. That's why I want Kurdistan to be a secular state. I prefer Roman Catholicism and Eastern Christianity to Protestantism, and I prefer Zoroastrianism to Islam. Many Muslim Kurds have recently converted to Zoroastrianism. I want to ban Muslim immigration to Europe.


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I'm opposed to Irish unification without the consent of the majority of the Ulstermen. Spain didn't cede the Isthmus to Britain in the Treaty of Utrecht. I support the right of the Ulstermen to decide their own future. I support the Spanish claim to Gibraltar, because the Spanish monarchy is far more vulnerable than the British monarchy. I'm considering converting to Chaldean Catholicism. I would vote for the SDLP, if I was a British or Irish citizen living in Ulster.


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My sister is a Chaldean Catholic. I don't care about the Troubles. I support the right of the Ulstermen to decide their own future. Israel and Saudi Arabia are traditional allies of the USA. I'm opposed to Irish unification without the consent of the majority of the Ulstermen
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I'm not opposed to democracy, despite liking some dictators. I don't support replacing democracies with dictatorships, but I'm not opposed to countries, which lack democratic traditions, being ruled by benevolent dictators. I want France and Italy to emulate the political systems of Hungary and Poland rather than the political system of Russia, despite admiring Putin.
I'm a republican, who prefers crowned republics to uncrowned republics. I want political leaders to be elected by universal suffrage, but I support figurehead monarchies.
I sincerely support religious tolerance. I dislike Islam and Protestantism, but I don't support persecution of Muslims and Protestants. I'm opposed to expulsion of Muslims from Europe, but I support banning future Muslim immigration to Europe.
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I'm not opposed to democracy, despite liking some dictators. I don't support replacing democracies with dictatorships, but I'm not opposed to countries, which lack democratic traditions, being ruled by benevolent dictators. I want France and Italy to emulate the political systems of Hungary and Poland rather than the political system of Russia, despite admiring Putin. 


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I'm a republican, who prefers crowned republics to uncrowned republics. I want political leaders to be elected by universal suffrage, but I support figurehead monarchies.
I sincerely support religious tolerance. I dislike Islam and Protestantism, but I don't support persecution of Muslims and Protestants. I'm opposed to expulsion of Muslims from Europe, but I support banning future Muslim immigration to Europe.

"One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know."

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Thanks Aaron, but I'll give up now. No one can out-parody Azadi, he's a walking parody of himself. Been fun trying though.

I admit that accusing me of Anglophobia isn't unreasonable, because I dislike Protestantism and liberalism. The established church of England is a Protestant church, and British conservatism is liberal rather than truly conservative. I admit that I'm not terribly fond of England, but I don't hate England. England isn't a uniquely evil nation, and I like some aspects of English culture. The British Empire wasn't worse than other European colonial empires, except in the Middle East. Many Englishmen are Roman Catholics. Cardinal John Henry Newman was an Englishman. I like the British monarchy. I like British comedy, such as Fawlty Towers and Keeping Up Appearances, I like Shakespeare, I like C.S. Lewis and I like Harry Potter.
It's understandable, that you dislike me, because I often have criticized your country on this forum, but criticizing the wrongdoings of your country isn't unreasonable. I admit that supporting a unilateral Spanish annexation of Gibraltar is wrong, but I haven't changed my mind on the British crimes against Kurdistan and Israel.
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I admit that accusing me of Anglophobia isn't unreasonable, because I dislike Protestantism and liberalism. The established church of England is a Protestant church, and British conservatism is liberal rather than truly conservative. I admit that I'm not terribly fond of England, but I don't hate England. England isn't a uniquely evil nation, and I like some aspects of English culture. The British Empire wasn't worse than other European colonial empires, except in the Middle East. Many Englishmen are Roman Catholics. Cardinal John Henry Newman was an Englishman. I like the British monarchy. I like British comedy, such as Fawlty Towers and Keeping Up Appearances, I like Shakespeare, I like C.S. Lewis and I like Harry Potter.
It's understandable, that you dislike me, because I often have criticized your country on this forum, but criticizing the wrongdoings of your country isn't unreasonable. I admit that supporting a unilateral Spanish annexation of Gibraltar is wrong, but I haven't changed my mind on the British crimes against Kurdistan and Israel.

"Why, a four-year-old child could understand this report. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it."

Breaking out of the pattern of Groucho Marx quotes, Peter doesn't dislike you because you dislike Protestantism and liberalism. He and I get along just fine, despite disagreeing on almost everything.

He dislikes you because you're an obnoxious troll that just spews irrelevant garbage whenever anyone engages you on anything, and you really expect everyone to care a whole heck of a lot about your opinions, and you ignore the opinions and arguments of others completely.

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What Aaron said. I'm always amazed though at all the knowledge I pick up from our resident troll, ORT for short. I never knew Newman was an Englishman. Fancy that, I always thought he was an Uzbekistani. And it had never previously occurred to me to equate the literary qualities of Shakespeare and Harry Potter, but I see it now. Always new things to learn.
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Azadi, it's been asked before and you didn't answer, and I suppose the answer is obvious, but are you on the Autistic Spectrum? You'd be better being honest. It might make us more forgiving of your idiosyncracies.
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What Aaron said. I'm always amazed though at all the knowledge I pick up from our resident troll, ORT for short. I never knew Newman was an Englishman. Fancy that, I always thought he was an Uzbekistani. And it had never previously occurred to me to equate the literary qualities of Shakespeare and Harry Potter, but I see it now. Always new things to learn.

I admit that I'm biased against England, because England made Kurdistan part of Iraq and because I dislike Protestantism and liberalism. It's understandable that you dislike me, because I'm biased against your country, but your personal attacks against me are unacceptable. Claiming that I'm a troll is wrong, because I'm expressing my sincere opinions. Claiming that my Christian faith isn't sincere is disgusting.
Khuda hafiz Peter.
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The spluttering outrage of trolls who get trolled against is always amusing.
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I admit that I'm biased against England, because England made Kurdistan part of Iraq and because I dislike Protestantism and liberalism. It's understandable that you dislike me, because I'm biased against your country, but your personal attacks against me are unacceptable. Claiming that I'm a troll is wrong, because I'm expressing my sincere opinions. Claiming that my Christian faith isn't sincere is disgusting.
Khuda hafiz Peter.

You know what we call people who are biased against England?

Anglophobes.

Whilst I'm in no  position to pass judgement on your relationship with the Christ for I am neither you nor the Christ, I suspect the reason others find it insincere is that you are jumping from heterodoxy (Nestorianism) to catholicity on seemingly linguistic/national grounds. Most people would consider that an odd reason for such a substantial move as you must remember that most Christians who take an interest in Christianity in the West consider Nestorianism to be a heresy.
If I jumped onto the Roman Catholic train simply because of my love of liturgy, people would rightly be concerned about my sincerity given that my current Protestant faith is anathematised by Roman Catholicism and so it would be a substantial change for little reason.

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To be fair, given that Azadi was largely correct when he talked about the misunderstandings of the Christology of the Church of the East and even Nestorius himself (at least in later life), I would personally take Nestorianism over much Protestantism. I agree with him that the former is part of a more pre-Reformation Christianity than much of the latter. But then, of course, he went to spoil it all by trying to partially exclude the Oriental-Orthodox Churches on sectarian grounds. That seems a common theme with him: the sensible interpersed with the bonkers.
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To be fair, given that Azadi was largely correct when he talked about the misunderstandings of the Christology of the Church of the East and even Nestorius himself (at least in later life), I would personally take Nestorianism over much Protestantism. I agree with him that the former is part of a more pre-Reformation Christianity than much of the latter. But then, of course, he went to spoil it all by trying to partially exclude the Oriental-Orthodox Churches on sectarian grounds. That seems a common theme with him: the sensible interpersed with the bonkers.

I have actually admitted that Miaphysitism isn't heretical, despite being an error.
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You know what we call people who are biased against England?

Anglophobes.

Whilst I'm in no  position to pass judgement on your relationship with the Christ for I am neither you nor the Christ, I suspect the reason others find it insincere is that you are jumping from heterodoxy (Nestorianism) to catholicity on seemingly linguistic/national grounds. Most people would consider that an odd reason for such a substantial move as you must remember that most Christians who take an interest in Christianity in the West consider Nestorianism to be a heresy.
If I jumped onto the Roman Catholic train simply because of my love of liturgy, people would rightly be concerned about my sincerity given that my current Protestant faith is anathematised by Roman Catholicism and so it would be a substantial change for little reason.

The Catholic Church admitted that Nestorian Christology isn't heretical in 1994, because the Assyrian Church of the East affirms that Jesus Christ is one person with two natures. I have recently read Cur Deus Homo by Anselm of Canterbury. The Christology of Anselm is Antiochene, while the Christology of Luther is Alexandrian. Anselm rejects Theopaschism, while Luther affirms Theopaschism.
The Chaldean Catholic Church removed Filioque from the Nicene Creed in 2007.
Aniconism is the most important difference between the Assyrian Church of the East and the Chaldean Catholic Church. I have recently discovered that the Assyrian Church of the East wasn't aniconist before the Islamic conquest of the Sassanid Persian Empire. I'm considering converting to Chaldean Catholicism, because neither the Assyrian Church of the East nor the Chaldean Catholic Church are aniconist.
I haven't decided to convert to Chaldean Catholicism yet, because I consider Nestorius a saint, unlike the Catholic Church.
I object to being called an Anglophobe, because I don't hate England, despite being biased against England. I like some aspects of English culture, and I don't claim that England is an uniquely evil nation. The British Empire was no worse than other European colonial empires, except in Kurdistan and Israel. Many Englishmen are Roman Catholics.
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What do we call people who are biased against homosexuals?

Homophobes

What do we call people who are biased against Muslims?

Islamophobes


What do we call people who openly admit that they are biased against England?

Anglophobes.


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