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felipe31

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On that we are in agreement, even if that isn't the primary reason I'd give for Britain's superior claim.


That is the main reason, Spain delivered Gibraltar in that treaty
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No, that is a technical and minor point that pales in to insignificance besides the fact we have controlled Gibraltar for over three centuries (longer than Spain, unless we play around with what we mean by Spain) and the people of Gibraltar wish to be British. Getting overly concerned about historical rights and wrongs, and neglecting the far more important rights of those alive and significantly affected today, is a recipe for causing more injustice than it will cure.
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the Inca plan was rejected mainly by the deputies of Buenos Aires and corboba because at that time they were more inclined to the republic than to the monarchy.
But as time went by and the war with Spain continued, they wanted to crown a prince who had the consent of the European powers to recognize independence and end the war with Spain. we must remember that it was the time of the holy alliance of the monarchical powers of Europe that did not tolerate the republics.

The monarchy in Argentina is impossible today, Argentina was never a kingdom and we have been 200 years of republic.

Argentina claims Falklands for 2 reasons
1) Britain recognized that the Falklands were Spanish territory.
2) Argentina was an heiress of Falklands at the time of declaring independence and exercised effective control of the territory having settlers and an Argentine governor at the time of the English invasion in 1833.

the English attack and the depopulation of the islands of the Argentines who lived there was an illegal act since Argentina and Britain were not at war and Argentina never seized the sovereignty of the islands


Argentina ought to renounce its claim to the Malvinas (Falkland Islands) in exchange for Britain renouncing its claim to the Antarctic Peninsula. Argentina ought to cede Alexander Island to Russia, because Alexander Island was discovered by Fabian von Bellingshausen, who was a Russian. Bellingshausen named Alexander Island after a Russian Tsar.
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Argentina ought to renounce its claim to the Malvinas (Falkland Islands) in exchange for Britain renouncing its claim to the Antarctic Peninsula. Argentina ought to cede Alexander Island to Russia, because Alexander Island was discovered by Fabian von Bellingshausen, who was a Russian. Bellingshausen named Alexander Island after a Russian Tsar.


Argentina's claims are merely symbolic now
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Argentina's claims are merely symbolic now

Antarctica is currently international territory because of the Antarctic Treaty, but Argentina has a lot of bases in the Antarctic Peninsula. 
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Antarctica is currently international territory because of the Antarctic Treaty, but Argentina has a lot of bases in the Antarctic Peninsula. 


I was talking about Falklands.

Argentina is a signatory country of the Antarctic treaty, it is normal to have bases.

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I was talking about Falklands.

Argentina is a signatory country of the Antarctic treaty, it is normal to have bases.


Argentina and Britain both claim the Antarctic Peninsula.

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Argentina and Britain both claim the Antarctic Peninsula.


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