azadi
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Posted 1561194919
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I agree, that demanding descent from Rurik is my personal opinion. Restoring the Russian monarchy makes no sense to me, if the Tsar isn't a descent of Rurik. The Romanov Tsars from Peter III onwards were undoubtedly descendants of Rurik, because the Holstein-Gottorps were a cadet branch of the Oldenburgs (the royal dynasty of Denmark from 1448 to 1863), who were descendants of king Valdemar the Great of Denmark, whose mother was a Rurikid princess.
Admiral_Horthy
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Making President Putin Tsar, even if by popular will and with the approval of the Orthodox Church, would invite much protests from the United States and her Western European puppet states.
norenxaq
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foreign opinion is irrelevant regarding this
Geoffrey
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A monarchy or church run by the KGB or FSB is no monarchy at all. Paul I and Alexander I were the last Russian Monarchs with any authority at all. All the gold in the world will never replace value (popular ideals that make life better for all). If the Russian Monarchy wants to recreate itself, they need to go back to the last strong link and create a Russian Constitution based on the principles of this last independent monarch. Rurik was not the last, but as the first he is important. Territorial boundaries of the Russian Monarchy can change over time they were not written in stone like the 10 commandments, these do not change. I believe that Paul I was a religious man of great vision who wanted to free and educate the masses. Alexander I was not able to confront the evil coming from Napoleon I, thus collapsed Russia. The Russian Royals have a very big responsibility and task, I believe they will be successful.
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Well, the last apart from Nicholas I, Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II. Apart from the existence of these four Emperors appearing to have escaped your notice, it has evidently not been pointed out to you that Alexander I beat Napoléon . Paul I I think has been somewhat maligned, but 'great vision' might be overstating things a tad. But that's opinion, my first two points however are fact. And not exactly obscure fact either.
Geoffrey
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Alexander I, was betrayed by Napoleon and by the Kremlin. Russian Monarchs and Patriarchs have been outgunned for two centuries who leads Russia today? Chess players. Beating someone else is not the definition of happiness.
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