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Peter

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Now Trump has floated delaying the election. He has absolutely no power to do such a thing, only Congress has, and they never would. Which is to say the House wouldn't, the Senate is Trump's poodle, but the House is all you need to stop it. Clearly this is preparing for a strategy of denying the result should he lose, which he has already publicly said in a Fox News interview he might, referring back to his previous refusal in 2016 to commit in advance to accepting an unfavourable result (in the event he refused to accept even a favourable one).

This is truly a morally as well as six times literally bankrupt man. I think though Vivat that you are unfair to Biden. The allegations are of something said to have happened long ago and were by one person, who has been backed up by no one else at all who was ever on Biden's staff. Surely that isn't evidence enough to hang a dog, let alone a presidential candidate. In Trump's case of course we don't need evidence, we have his own boasting that he is a serial molester and abuser of women on tape.
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To be fair, there's plenty of evidence that Biden is a pretty 'hands-y' fellow. It's on video repeatedly. This isn't the same as sexual assault, but it is worth noting. Joe's a creepy guy.

 But the main issue about the allegations against Biden is they highlight his rank hypocrisy, as well as that of the Democrats-media in general. By his own words, we should believe the essence of Reid's claims against him. There's considerably more reason to believe Reid's allegation than any against Kavanaugh, but the former has not a fraction of the coverage, let alone anger. Ford's allegations, after all, were even further back and even more lacking in evidence or support than Reid's (actually, everyone who Ford said was at this party denied it, including her longtime close friend, who later admitted the story didn't make sense in the context of their youth and that she had been pressured by mutual friends to lie to support Ford). I suppose it is probably good that the always pretty selective and dubious #MeToo movement seems to have officially died though.  

It is certainly true Biden does show worrying signs of mental decline. We can all agree that Trump is volatile, unserious,* and inarticulate, but none of that is quite the same as showing early signs dementia, which is what we have with Biden. His VP will likely be the next president of the United States in all but name.

Given the ascendancy of the hard left within the Democratic party, which Biden is unlikely to keep in check, I don't know if he will turn out better for Britain to deal with than Trump. Trump actually likes Britain; Obama on the other hand had a barely disguised dislike for us. I also wouldn't trust Biden to take a strong line on China, although no doubt Putin will get a lot of blow-back from his administration: getting the actual geopolitical threats to the West reversed in the terms of their true seriousness.


* I must say that I find it quite funny that people actually take him seriously, or pretend to, when he says things like his latest outburst on the election date. Trump says a lot of crap all the time. It doesn't mean he's actually going to launch a coup. Does anyone seriously think that? Perhaps, after all, there are people who apparently think arresting "mostly peaceful" rioters, looters, and arsonists is fascist. In truth, it means he got bored and felt like spouting off. He even said himself that he wasn't serious.
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Personally I find Ford a great deal more credible than Reid, but that's just an opinion. Every time Trump says something outrageously dumb, such as suggesting injecting bleach as a virus cure, he rows back and says he was joking. But actually he wasn't joking when he said it, he's just lying later on in an attempt to save face. I think it would be crazy for people not to take such an unprincipled rogue seriously when he attempts to undermine the credibility of an election he fears he'll lose, and only prudent for them to consider whether this might be the first indication of a plan to retain the presidency by illicit means.
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Have you heard Reid speak? I'm confused about the comparison being made here. Reid has more evidence than Ford. That's undeniable. There's no evidence Ford even met Kavanaugh,. whereas we know that Reid worked for Biden. I don't think, with all due respect, your personal belief in Ford is that relevant. I found her playacting, with the child's voice, rather phoney myself, but that's hardly significant, one way or the other. Personally, I would not say either of them, Kavanaugh or Biden, should have been disbarred on the evidence, but it is pretty much undeniable that there is more evidence against Biden than Kavanaugh. Ford named three people as present at this party, including a life long friend, and all said they weren't there. Her friend said the whole story just didn't make sense based in the context of their youth and the specifics given, even after being pressured by mutual friends and acquaintances behind the scenes. Ford is a highly partisan Democrat who lied about things like the degree of her flying phobia and the fact the changes on her house were due to a fear Kavanaugh instilled in her. Reid might have lied, but at this time the evidence is not as clear. But the main point is that Biden condemned Kavanaugh on less evidence than Reid has shown against him. He is hoisted by his own petard. Did he, or did he not, say we should always believe the essence of a woman's allegation?

The point about Trump's words is he just mouths off, constantly. This is perhaps the most obvious thing about him. To see any serious plot in this seems silly to me. That's not to excuse Trump. As president he shouldn't be talking crap. But by now we do all know what Trump is. Seriously, haven't we been through four years of this? Are we really going to act like Trump doesn't doesn't talk nonsense all the time? How on earth are Twitter ramblings a plan for a coup?
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On Reid/Ford, maybe so. Neither of us knows the truth of the matter in either case, except as you correctly say the evidence was insufficient for a conviction in both. Let's just leave it at that. On Trump, I really hope I don't have occasion to remind you of that post in 3 months' time.
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On Ford and Reid, I just want to stress I certainly don't think the evidence against Biden is close to warranting us treating him as guilty, any more than I think it was for Kavanaugh. That's if we are applying a sane standard, which is exactly what he and the Democrats-media didn't do for Kavanaugh (and often in #MeToo episode more generally). My concern is entirely in the rank hypocrisy and blatant double standards of Biden and the Democrats-media. What is undeniable, because it's on tape, is Biden said that in a situation like this we have to believe the essence of a woman's allegations.
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Guilty until proven innocent is what such a policy amounts to, which I agree is not sane and is an overreaction to the undeniable difficulty of proving sexual assault charges, where so often it is just one person's word against another's, to a standard satisfying to a criminal court. Guilty if charged is the only thing that would be worse, the Soviet-era version of justice. I don't though think the Democrats have a monopoly on either hypocrisy or double standards. And unlike the Republicans they have at least not whored themselves to a mountebank.
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