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This just in!

Their Royal Highnesses, the Hereditary Grand Duke and the Hereditary Grand Duchess of Luxembourg, have welcomed their first child, a son.

I wish the new Prince Charles to be healthy and to bring his family lots of joy!
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Congratulations to Their Royal Highnesses, and I wish the new prince long life and happiness. I would of course have done the same for a princess, but I can't pretend I'm not pleased that the Bourbon dynasty will continue to hold a European throne for at least one more generation.
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How many times has it happened (after the election of Hugues Capet in 987, obviously) that there was not even a single Capetian monarch reigning somewhere?

I can only think of 1868 - 1874* (the deposition of Queen Isabel II of Spain and the ascension of King Alfonso XII of Spain) and 1931 - 1964 (the deposition of King Alfonso XIII of Spain and the ascension of Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg). I sincerely hope that there won't be another such period.


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* One could possibly argue that a Capetian monarch was reigning in the Empire of Brazil at that time, but the House of Braganza was illegitimately descended from the House of Aviz, which was itself illegitimately descended from the Portuguese branch of the Capetian House of Burgundy, so I would say no.
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Welcome to the new Heir and future Grand Duke. My congratulations to The Heredity Grand Duke and Heredity Grand Duchess upon the arrival.

As I can't recall off the top of my head like I used to a question arises at this time: Potentially what Regininal names and numbers does the choice of the young royals name bring us I wonder?

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As I can't recall off the top of my head like I used to a question arises at this time: Potentially what Regininal names and numbers does the choice of the young royals name bring us I wonder?


It appears that 1815 is considered the starting point for the most recent regnal numbers in Luxembourg. If that is indeed the case, then the next two Grand Dukes (in the natural order, hopefully) are going to be Guillaume V and Charles. Seeing how it's just Jean (r. 1964 - 2000) and Henri (r. 2000 - present), I would presume that there won't be a Charles the First until there has been a Charles the Second. I admit that it's not for me to decide that, though! [smile]
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That would be because 1815 was when the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was formed. The first three Grand Dukes were Guillaumes I, II and III, better known as Willems I, II and III of the Netherlands, then there was Adolphe followed by Guillaume IV, Charlotte, Jean and Henri. One imagines the present Hereditary Grand Duke will in due course become Guillaume V, and after him Charles Jean Philippe Joseph Marie Guillaume will have the choice of Charles, Jean II, Guillaume VI, or something else as he prefers.
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...then there was Adolphe...


... who I forgot about in my mental exercise. To make things even, you omitted his granddaughter, Marie-Adélaïde.

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A hit, a palpable hit. Honours even, then.
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Thanks for this notification. It's nice to hear of the birth of Prince Charles of Luxembourg, and to know that the Bourbon-Parma-Nassau House will continue to reign for the foreseeable future.

There was a  brief interregnum in France in 1316 from the death of Louis X on June 5 until the accession of his posthumous son John on November 15, whose short reign ended a few days later. Louis' brother Philippe held the regency during this time, and became king upon John's passing. However, the original House of Burgundy was still reigning at this time in Portugal, so the continuity of the Capetian monarchy was preserved.

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There was a  brief interregnum in France in 1316 from the death of Louis X on June 5 until the accession of his posthumous son John on November 15, whose short reign ended a few days later. Louis' brother Philippe held the regency during this time, and became king upon John's passing. However, the original House of Burgundy was still reigning at this time in Portugal, so the continuity of the Capetian monarchy was preserved.


That is a very good observation, Windemere! 

In that case, there was a third (rather brief) period with no Capetian rulers: from the 25th of November, 1885, to the 17th of May, 1886. This was between the early death of King Alfonso XII and the automatic succession at birth of King Alfonso XIII, his son. The latter's mother was regent at the time, but she (Maria Christina of Austria) was not a Bourbon agnatically.

I could bend the "rules" a little and say that there were Capetian/Bourbon monarchs at the time, they just weren't reigning: Isabella II of Spain, Francis II of the Two Sicilies and Robert I, Duke of Parma, who had been deposed in 1868, 1861 and 1849, respectively.
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