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Ethiomonarchist

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Yes indeed, and he is thus expelled from the most exalted order of the "Daughters of Didi" as one of his predicessors called us...


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Yes indeed, and he is thus expelled from the most exalted order of the "Daughters of Didi" as one of his predicessors called us...


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I would like to point out that the Canadian NDP (though admittedly they are social democratic as opposed to being strictly socialist) has more monarchists than the Conservative Party does. How that happened I have no idea.

I have absolutely no idea where you got that info from. The policies of the Tories (namely Queen's portraits, rebranding of the military et al) have been far more monarchistic. As far as I can tell (as a Canadian with a number of monarchist aquaintances) monarchism here tends to be a phenomenon of liberals and eastern-Canadian conservatives. Socialists and western-Canadian republican-style conservatives tend to be apathetic or outright republican.
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I would like to point out that the Canadian NDP (though admittedly they are social democratic as opposed to being strictly socialist) has more monarchists than the Conservative Party does. How that happened I have no idea.

I have absolutely no idea where you got that info from. The policies of the Tories (namely Queen's portraits, rebranding of the military et al) have been far more monarchistic. As far as I can tell (as a Canadian with a number of monarchist aquaintances) monarchism here tends to be a phenomenon of liberals and eastern-Canadian conservatives. Socialists and western-Canadian republican-style conservatives tend to be apathetic or outright republican.

Got it from Jovan.

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I would like to point out that the Canadian NDP (though admittedly they are social democratic as opposed to being strictly socialist) has more monarchists than the Conservative Party does. How that happened I have no idea.

I have absolutely no idea where you got that info from. The policies of the Tories (namely Queen's portraits, rebranding of the military et al) have been far more monarchistic. As far as I can tell (as a Canadian with a number of monarchist aquaintances) monarchism here tends to be a phenomenon of liberals and eastern-Canadian conservatives. Socialists and western-Canadian republican-style conservatives tend to be apathetic or outright republican.


He got the information from the latest Ipsos-Reid poll on the monarchy that I saw and quoted here. The difference was not great, but it was statistically significant. The level of support for the Crown was actually higher among NDP voters than among Conservative voters. It was lowest among Liberal voters.

As far as the east/west split, I suggest you come to Alberta. While you are correct that many 'republican style conservatives' tend to be apathetic, the only 'out right republicans' I have ever met are Liberals and Greens. The majority of western conservatives are either monarchist or, as you point out, apathetic, and unfortunately there are more apathetics than monarchists.

That said, I have been quite pleased with the Governments' recent decisions and I would point out that Mr Harper is a 'western-Canadian republican-style conservative' from Calgary, a/k/a 'The Dallas of the North'.

And interestingly enough, I have never met an Alberta Dipper who was a republican. In fact, a good friend is a former NDP MLA and is a solid supporter of the Crown

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The policies of the Tories (namely Queen's portraits, rebranding of the military et al) have been far more monarchistic. I agree.
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He got the information from the latest Ipsos-Reid poll on the monarchy that I saw and quoted here. The difference was not great, but it was statistically significant. The level of support for the Crown was actually higher among NDP voters than among Conservative voters. It was lowest among Liberal voters.



Looking at this again in light of the overwhelming vote by the Liberal Party to retain the Crown, one wonders just how high the Conservative and NDP support for the monarchy is!

Also, somehow a Youtube video dealing with the Beatles has ended up in siredwardheath's signature despite not, as best as I remember, even being there when his account was deleted!
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That is truly odd. I certainly don't remember it either. It may not be a coincidence that one of my arguments with Welton was about my low opinion of The Beatles' music ...
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