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azadi

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I support the establishment of a United States of Africa, because most African states aren't real nations. They are multi-ethnic states established by European colonial powers. 
I want Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of Muammar Gaddafi, to be elected Emperor of Africa, because Muammar Gaddafi was elected King of Kings of Africa by 200 African kings in 2008. In addition, the Gaddafis are staunch opponents of Western imperialism, and Africa must be liberated from Western imperialism. France continues to dominate its former colonies in Africa, and USA also tries to dominate Africa. A united Africa can fight Western imperialism without becoming dependent on China or Russia.
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Surely Kim Jongun or El Chapo would be even better choices! They must wrestle to decide who shall rule Africa!
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Surely Kim Jongun or El Chapo would be even better choices! They must wrestle to decide who shall rule Africa!

Gaddafi was actually elected King of Kings of Africa by 200 African kings. Kim Jong-un and El Chapo aren't Africans. The ideology of Gaddafi evolved a lot during his long rule. Gaddafi was a republican Pan-Arabist, when he took power, but he abandoned Pan-Arabism and republicanism and embraced Pan-Africanism and monarchism. I admire Gaddafi, because Gaddafi supported the traditional kings of Africa and was a staunch opponent of Western imperialism. 
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Gaddafi was a homocidal maniac. But why go with his cast offs when Kim Jongun or El Chapo are available?
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Gaddafi was a homocidal maniac. But why go with his cast offs when Kim Jong in or El Chapo are available?

Gaddafi ought to have crowned himself King of Libya. Reza Shah Pahlavi was elected Shah of Iran after overthrowing the last Kadjar Shah of Iran.
Monarchists disliking Gaddafi is understandable, because Gaddafi overthrew the Libyan monarchy. But Gaddafi abandoned republicanism, when he abandoned Pan-Arabism and embraced Pan-Africanism. Gaddafi supported the traditional kings of Africa. Gaddafi once proposed establishing an upper house of a Pan-African Parliament, which should have consisted of traditional African kings. I support Gaddafi's proposal for a Pan-African upper house consisting of traditional African kings, despite supporting the abolition of the British House of Lords, because the traditional African kings aren't comparable to the British peers. The traditional African kings aren't merely noblemen. They are the heads of ethnic groups or tribes. 
http://www.andrewcusack.com/2009/ghaddafi-kings/


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I am certainly interested what Royalcello will have to say about the kinds of things being advocated on his forum these days.

Although I do think his toppling led to chaos in Libya, I can't deny he got what he deserved. If only Reagan hadn't missed him decades before.
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Indeed, I believe Theo would have plenty to say about some of the heterodox ideas promoted in recent threads.
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what has happened to theodore then?

well if gadaffi became a monarchist, why didnt he admit his mistake and restored the kingdom of libya?
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I saw him a few weeks ago posting on an article at The American Conservative.
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Theodore has always supported big tent monarchism, and I'm definitely a monarchist. I haven't advocated the abolition of any current monarchy on this forum, I haven't claimed, that any reigning European monarch is illegitimate on this forum and I haven't advocated Nazism, fascism or racism on this forum. 
I agree, that Gaddafi abolishing the Libyan monarchy was wrong, but Gaddafi abandoned republicanism, when he abandoned Pan-Arabism and embraced Pan-Africanism. I admire Gaddafi, because he supported the traditional kings of Africa and was elected King of Kings of Africa by 200 African kings, not because he abolished the Libyan monarchy.
I'm a Bonapartist. I admire Napoleon and I prefer Napoleon to the Capetians. I admire Reza Shah Pahlavi, and I prefer the Pahlavis to the Kadjars. I prefer Zog to the Wieds. Gaddafi ought to have crowned himself King of Libya. I'm also an anti-imperialist, and I admire Gaddafi, because he was a staunch opponent of Western imperialism. He supported African liberation from Western imperialism. Nelson Mandela admired Gaddafi. I support the establishment of a United States of Africa, because a United States of Africa will be able to stand up to the Western world and to China. Africa must be free of foreign domination.
Most members of this forum are Anglophile conservatives, who support the West against its enemies, but I prefer Russia to Britain, and I'm a socialist (but not a Communist), an anti-imperialist and a Third Worldist. I vote for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. The Patriotic Union of Kurdistan is a social democratic and secularist party, which supports Kurdish independence from Iraq, which was pro-Soviet during the Cold War and which remains pro-Russian today. I'm an Eastern Christian, and I like the Russian Orthodox Church. I admire Putin. Putin is the greatest current state leader. I'm sick and tired of the Russophobia of the British establishment. Crimea must remain part of Russia. Sergey Skripal deserves to die, because he is a traitor to Russia, but he ought to have been killed by polonium rather than by Novichok, because civilian Britons were victims of the Novichok attack against Sergey Skripal. 
Despite disagreeing with me, you ought to support my right to express my opinions on this forum, because I'm after all a sincere monarchist. I support keeping all current monarchies, and I support restoration of the Russian, Iranian and Turkish monarchies. I'm opposed to the Iranian regime, despite being an anti-imperialist and a Third Worldist, because I'm a secularist, because I admire the Pahlavis, because the Iranian regime opposes Kurdish independence from Iraq and because the Iranian regime wants to eliminate the State of Israel.
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Royalcello came by a few weeks ago and had a look at what Azadi was doing, which was much the same as he is now. He didn't have a problem then, which I know because he told me, so I don't suppose he would now. For me, I am not sure whether the Gadaffi proposal is more offensive than it is preposterous or the other way round. I would not however stop Azadi making it even if I had the power to do so. Which I don't. His approval of the attempted murder of Sergei Skripal and his daughter I find especially offensive, and that I would tell him to keep to himself in future.
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Yes, I would say it's more absurd or crackpot than anything else.

I think Azadi has actually brought some new life to the place, whatever you think of his ideas. He could be a little more restrained in the sheer volume of threads and posts though, especially as he repeats himself so much.
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He has. And he could, especially in the repetition factor. I do however appreciate the new life and give him credit for that.
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Perhaps Gaddafi's sex dungeon could house some kind of memorial to his royal pretentions?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545819/Uncovered-The-macabre-sex-chamber-Libyas-Colonel-Gaddafi-raped-girls-boys-young-14.html
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If it weren't for azadi's repeated posts I wouldn't have much to do online, so I'm grateful for them and hope it continues. It seems we agree on very little and his monarchism is about as unorthodox as his Christianity but at least in a way he shares my primary two concerns (Christ and Crown) and it's interesting to chat to the other side of the coin.

As for a Gaddafi restoration, surprisingly enough im completely against it, alongside a united Africa.

My main monarchist concern in Africa is the restoration of Realm status in the African members of the Commonwealth. Libia should be returned to the sovreignty of the pro-Gadhafi ruling house. I'm okay with a post-colonial africa coming to peaceful border alterations if such a thing is possible and would hope to one day see a series of African kingdoms and united kingdoms united in peace but not in politics.

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