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Peter

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Yes, that is certainly possible. I believe the view is mistaken, but that is a matter for debate and ultimately agreement to disagree if neither party will shift, not a cause for antagonism.
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The parts of the world where religions other than Christianity are dominant are not exactly known for their tolerance of homosexuality.


But I am concerned with my part of the world, where Christianity does dominate. For the rest Buddhism is generally though not invariably more tolerant than the other major faiths, the world's only Jewish state is tolerant, and the major majority Hindu state had its anti-gay laws (which actually originated from Christian culture) nullified by its courts. That leaves Islam, which does provide some extreme examples of official persecution explicitly rooted in religion. But it is no more dangerous to be gay in Iran than it is in Jamaica, or Uganda, and it is Christianity at the root in both those countries.
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As a side note, I do think it's an interesting irony that liturgically modernist but morally conservative Anglicans cannot use my 1662 Book of Common Prayer argument against gay marriage, since they have already abandoned the BCP themselves for their own reasons and would probably regard the way traditionalists like me cling to it as "idolatry."  And yet for me it's the strongest argument Anglicans have, since I actually agree with liberals that purely Biblical arguments against homosexuality are weak.  If the 1662 BCP is no longer relevant except as a historical document and it is proper for the Church to compose new liturgies more suitable for the modern world, then there's no reason why those new liturgies could not include one for same-sex marriages.  But for me the 1662 "Solemnization of the Form of Matrimony," unaltered and un-updated, remains the most sublime evocation of what Marriage is, whether it will ever be available to me or not.  Other types of unions, heterosexual or homosexual, may not be objectionable, but they are simply not Anglican Matrimony as defined by the Book of Common Prayer.
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Well, perhaps Peter need not worry...

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9666371/New-Archbishop-Justin-Welby-pledges-re-think-on-gay-relationships.html

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"I am always averse to the language of exclusion, when what we are called to is to love in the same way as Jesus Christ loves us." What is this? A prominent Christian leader taking note of the teachings of Christ? Unheard of. I approve, though. Thanks for the link.
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