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BaronVonServers

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And Jovan,
I'd include in the territories properly restored to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - those parts of Oregon and Washington that were part of British Colombia before the treaties giving over those areas were negotiated.  If the US can 'renegotiate' land away from the Indians, there is no reason why it can't also have land 'renegotiated' away from it....

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I don't mean to open this thread again, but I made a mistake in part of post #561 about a certain blog (which I thought was monarchist) and have deleted that part. 

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I believe that Mexico should reconquer it's lost territory, and expand a little into the United States. I Believe all of Central America as south as Panama should be under Mexican control. I believe the The Caribbean should be Mexican states like Cuba, Puerto Rico, Hispanola ( Yes I believe the Dominican Republic, and Hati should reunite into one Island ) Jamica, and so forth. I believe that all the land west of the Mississippi river should be under Mexican control, and the state Mississippi as well, with Florida, and southern Georgia to connect Florida with Mississipi. That is my idea of how Mexico should be, and The United States should be like it was in the year 1800, and it should have Monarch.
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Wut?
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Just a spot of irredentism, nothing out of the way.



Of course, if everything is to be put back the way it was, that would require Mexico to submit to the King of Spain. Wouldn't it?
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What is that little red dot near Vancouver? Was there a Mexican colony up there?
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The claims of Spain to the Floridas lapsed with the abdications.  They should be restored to Her Britannic Majesty.


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Peter made a valid point that all of Mexico, indeed all of Latin America except for Brazil should be restored to Spain if we are going to go around restoring lands to their previous realms...but how far back are we supposed to go...one could argue that Mexico should go back to the Aztecs, that the Incan Emprie should be restored along with the Mayan City States...that Spain should be partitioned and an heir to the Muslim Nesrid monarchy returned to Grenada, and Scotland should get the lineal Stuart heir back on his throne, and Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece returned to to the Ottoman Empire.
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My general rule would be that current monarchies (such as Spain and the UK) should be left alone, anything else is fair game.  I'm not anxious to see Ottoman rule restored over the Balkans, however.  Too bad Turkey couldn't have kept their monarchy despite losing their empire like Britain did.
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In my opinion it is only a matter of time until at least portions of the current US are monarchies. Indeed, I think that we might see the beginnings within a generation or two.
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I am curious as to why the state of Mexico (which is currently being run by gangster cartels) should be afforded so much land of which it never owned and considering it's history of monarchial rule was brief and impotent?
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I am curious as to why the state of Mexico (which is currently being run by gangster cartels) should be afforded so much land of which it never owned and considering it's history of monarchial rule was brief and impotent?


OK, I'm confused! Mexico today, whatever its government, is less than 50% its original territory, the rest having become part of the US. What exactly do you mean?

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Do you cherish hopes--however remote--of the United States becoming a monarchy eventually? Or perhaps breaking up into smaller countries, some of which might be monarchies?

A good question. I'd love it if the United States were to become a monarchy, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Ideally, I'd like to see the royal line of Hawai'i put in charge of the nation (since it is the closest thing to an American line that exists), although that is even more unlikely.

I would not, however, be in favor of joining back with the United Kingdom. As an Absolutist, I'd see no benefit from joining with a kingdom whose monarchs sadly wield little-to-no power.


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Peter made a valid point that all of Mexico, indeed all of Latin America except for Brazil should be restored to Spain if we are going to go around restoring lands to their previous realms...

Well I'd argue that, historically speaking, it could not go to Spain, on basis that the King of Spain turned down Mexico's offer to become King of Mexico during Mexico's Second Empire. Thus, it could be rightly claimed that Spain's Monarchs no longer have claim to Mexico due to the fact that they historically surrendered it. The crown instead was offered and went to Maximilian I who, although ultimately unsuccessful in defending his kingdom against the republicans, was undoubtedly a badass.


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What is that little red dot near Vancouver? Was there a Mexican colony up there?


No, but there was a Spanish claim in the area.

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