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My wife met this lady a bunch of years back on a vacation. I didn't even know there was a queen of Hawaii, but apparantly there is. She is (or at least she was) waiting tables and serving drinks in one of the local bars, I believe from my wife that she is also Irish by descent.
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There was a Queen of Hawai'i.

They were over thrown by US Arms (much like the republic of West Florida).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii

I like their flag!


There are several 'pretenders to the throne'.  One of the 'nobility' was actually elected to their state house.

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My wife said it was pretty cool meeting her, I think she is a nominally 'elected' resident of Hawaii. I am under the impression that the position may be likened to gala-queen or something, not really what you folks are after. Still I find it interesting... that the Queen be someone of foreign birth 'non-Hawaii born'.

The point being... this is not an option for presidents.

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My wife said it was pretty cool meeting her, I think she is a nominally 'elected' resident of Hawaii. I am under the impression that the position may be likened to gala-queen or something, not really what you folks are after. Still I find it interesting... that the Queen be someone of foreign birth 'non-Hawaii born'.

The point being... this is not an option for presidents.


Well, Technically the requirement in the US constitution is for 'natural born' not 'native born'.  My son, born in Spain is a 'natural born' citizen of the US, but not a 'native born' one.

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Well, no one cares about Hawaii--somehow it's rightfully ours.  That's the sad thing and no one wants to challenge it. He we go marching of to war like hypocrites saying it it is wrong to impose oneself on other countries and we have a history of doing it--kind of like we were the ones to drop an atomic bomb and now we have the right to be the "Nuclear Weapons Police".

It'd be nice to restore a rightful heir to Hawaii's throne, but I do not see independence coming soon--the tax dollars from tourism are enough incentive for Uncle Sam. Maybe we can take Canada next! All that land between the continental US and Alaska--it belongs to us! I means its on our land mass! And Mexico, Central and South America too. After all its called AMERICA!

That's the funny thing about America--people thing the whole damned land mass belongs to them, as if the British were even the first ones here! And to think Hawaii is way off shore in the Pacific.

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The English Colonies were the oldest ones occupied by their original builders in what is now the US at the time of the rebellion (In all of North America I think).

Doesn't justify the actions of the rebels in anyway, nor the military occupation of the Floridas and Hawaii....


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A Pretender to the Throne of Hawaii, that has political Ambitions:


Quentin Kawananakoa

Quentin Kawananakoa (R)
http://kawananakoa.com

Quentin Kawananakoa is technically a prince, a descendent of royal families who ruled hawaii for centuries. So his political ambition really is in his blood.

"I just have a passion to serve the people of Hawaii," Kawananakoa told KGMB9.

To get to Washington, he's trying to convince our very Democratic state that Hawaii needs a Republican in Congress for balance.

"I think today my party, the Republican party, does not have an understanding of what Hawaii is all about simply because they don't have anyone talking to them," said Kawananakoa. "For me as a Republican, running from Hawaii, I have the opportunity to go with our delegation and be that bridge to the other side of the aisle."

Politically, Kawananakoa supports the war in Iraq. But if the country slides into civil war, he says we should bring our troops home.

He also supports wire-tapping and the No Child Left Behind Program with amendments.

His priorities, if elected, are simple.

"Medicare, social security are absolutely important to our islands," he said. "Also the environment, our dependency on oil is ridiculous."

To ease that dependency, Kawananakoa would push for OTEC (ocean thermal energy conversion), turning waves into electricity.

Outside politics, Kawananakoa is a trustee for Campbell Estate. He's married with two boys and likes risky sports like paragliding and ATV racing.

He knows there's no escaping the shadow of his royal roots, but says he wants to win over voters on his own merits.

"I'm proud of my ancestors who have come before me, but what really counts is what you're gonna do today," he said.

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 Last Queen of Hawaii


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Hawaii should become an sovereign nation again and the monarchy should be restored.


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Quentin Kawananakoa is technically a prince, a descendent of royal families who ruled hawaii for centuries. So his political ambition really is in his blood.


Has he not disqualified himself as a legitimate pretender to the throne by associating himself with electoral politics and a political party?  Is not a monarch supposed to be above politics?  I know monarchs are to take an interest in domestic affairs but that is not the same as supporting a party platform. 

Is not a monarch to be a uniter?  The moment he declared a political affiliation he became devisive.

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Here's a lineage of the Hawaiian monarchs (from various biographies on Wikipedia):

King Kamehameha I (died 1819) father of:
King Kamehameha II (d. 1824) brother of:
King Kamehameha III (d. 1854) (son of Kamehameha I)
King Kamehameha IV (d. 1863) (son of Princess Kinau, daughter of Kamehameha I)
King Kamehameha V (d. 1872) (brother of Kamehameha IV)
King Lunalilo (d. 1874) (grandson of a brother of Kamehameha I)
King Kalakaua (d. 1891) (descended from great-grandfather of Kamehameha I)
Queen Liliuokalani (d. 1917) (sister of Kalakaua)

Queen Liliuokalani (last monarch of Hawaii) had one niece, Princess Kaiulani, who predeceased her in 1899. It should probably be mentioned that the royal Hawaiian lineage descended from these monarchs is now apparently completely extinct. The present Hawaiian claimants are descended from rather distant collateral ancestors of the Kamehameha  and  Kalakaua families.

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Quentin Kawananakoa is technically a prince, a descendent of royal families who ruled hawaii for centuries. So his political ambition really is in his blood.


Has he not disqualified himself as a legitimate pretender to the throne by associating himself with electoral politics and a political party?  Is not a monarch supposed to be above politics?  I know monarchs are to take an interest in domestic affairs but that is not the same as supporting a party platform. 

Is not a monarch to be a uniter?  The moment he declared a political affiliation he became devisive.


Tsar Simeon II, deposed monarch of Bulgaria, would obviously disagree with you. He served as Prime Minister of Bulgaria from 7/2001 to 8/2005.

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But does he still consider himself to be a legitimate pretender to a throne? I thought he once said that being prime minister was a bigger honour that being King.  
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