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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/07/ap/europe/main20051843.shtml?tag=channelMore;latestRight

It will be from May 3rd thru May 5th.

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I believe that this is what is termed a "Working visit" not a "State visit".  There is a big difference in protocol terms.


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I believe that this is what is termed a "Working visit" not a "State visit".  There is a big difference in protocol terms.


True and this definitely look like a state visit!

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A State visit would require a state welcome at the White House and a State dinner which would include diplomatic corps, congressional leaders and other invited guests.  This visit only mentions a meeting with the President, and no state welcome or state dinner.  Therefore this would be a working visit.  It would also be extremely irregular for there to be a state visit by such a senior royal to the United States shortly before the President is expected to make a full state visit to the U.K. in the same month.  President and Mrs. Obama will be going to the UK on a state visit from May 24th to the 26th.  It's simply isn't done. 

This visit by the Prince of Wales will be short on ceremony and more focused on the Prince's speech to Georgetown University on sustainable agriculture, and on an event to support military forces of the UK and US deployed overseas.

The Obama state visit to the UK will be their first to a European country.  All previous visits to European countries by President Obama have been working visits, including his last visit to London when he and Mrs. Obama evidently made such a favourable impression on the Queen and Prince Philip.


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I believe that this is what is termed a "Working visit" not a "State visit".  There is a big difference in protocol terms.


True and this definitely look like a state visit!


I definitely need to proofread! This was intended to be in agreement with Ethio, but I left out 'does not' between 'definitely' and 'look'! And I haven't even had a few pints!

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Anyway, I don't think the Prince of Wales could possibly make a state visit. I think you have to be a head of state in order to do that.
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Anyway, I don't think the Prince of Wales could possibly make a state visit. I think you have to be a head of state in order to do that.


You are correct, Sir, and it went right by me!

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Oh, so CBS made a fail then I guess.
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And several of us failed to catch their fail, which is a fail of our own. 

Thanks Peter!

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