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Ethiomonarchist

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Well taking the name Charles IV would call into question the legitimacy of everyone from George I through Elizabeth II so I think I'm on pretty solid ground when I say that will not happen.
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Anyway the Jacobites have already had a Charles IV.
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Anyway the Jacobites have already <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Emmanuel_IV_of_Savoy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">had</a> a Charles IV.

I was only including the Jacobite claimants up to the extinction of the main male line with the death of the Cardinal Duke of York, Henry IX to Jacobites, in 1807. I kind of lose track of the succesion after that, although I know that the current Jacobite pretender is the Duke of Bavaria.

Of course, I was joking.

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I know it all the way, despite my supporting the Jacobite position about as much as I do Luis Alfonso, which is to say not at all. There is a strain of thought which says that George III was the legitimate successor to the Jacobite Henry IX, presumably making him George I. Those people would then count the Prince of Wales as Charles IV or George V, depending. They are welcome to; I hope he will be George VII but if not then Charles III will certainly be the official regnal name, also the real one.
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I know it all the way, despite my supporting the Jacobite position about as much as I do Luis Alfonso, which is to say not at all. There is a strain of thought which says that George III was the legitimate successor to the Jacobite Henry IX, presumably making him George I. Those people would then count the Prince of Wales as Charles IV or George V, depending. They are welcome to; I hope he will be George VII but if not then Charles III will certainly be the official regnal name, also the real one.

I'm a fan of George III and indeed he's the first Hanoverian monarch I do like, so I would be quite happy to accept that line of succession! Although under the Jacobite line if succession the second in line to the throne is the future Prince of Liechtenstein, and I am amused by the idea of the UK being in personal union with Liechtenstein.

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Third. Max, Duke in Bavaria, Sophie, Hereditary Princess of Liechtenstein, Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein. Told you I knew it all the way. Why I do I suppose is because it's genealogically interesting, as these people are the heirs of line of William the Conqueror and Robert the Bruce. George I was a pretty horrible man, but we've had a lot worse monarchs. George II was a bit nicer, not a major achievement, and again perfectly acceptable as a monarch. George III certainly had the pleasantest personality of the three, and I have no complaints about his reign. Of the male Hanoverians my favourite is actually his son, the underrated William IV.
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Or Charlemagne I of the United Kingdom


Charles never ruled the Empire as 'Charlemagne or Karl der Grosse. Those were titles given him after his death.

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by the way, does anybody know if paintings of the scottish coronations or paintings of the scottish kings with the scottish crown on their heads or beside them exist? i have never really seen any
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