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Acrobatis

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Hah, Byzantines were the continuation of Rome, and I guess as you already know they were (the first Christian state) calling themselves Romans, until the Comnenus family (and their descendants Palaiologoi, Doukas, Great Comnenus), where they started calling themselves Greeks. Only the westerners were calling them imperium Graecorum, because they wanted to claim Roman descendancy. They were named “Byzantines” in the 16th century by a monk called Wolfe. Their lands were the Roman land covering North Africa, Asia Minor, Italy, the balkans, the Middle East etc. I did a dna test at some point and surprisingly (my mother was always proud we “are” pure Greeks :p ) I am 60% Greek, and the rest come from all countries surrounding Greece (Italy, North Africa, Middle East, west Asia minor).
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You speak nonsense, DNA are telling u from where exactky found records of ur dna, that doesnt mean u are from middle east for example. Or for instance to mine it mention turkey as well just because in 1735 i have a record which ofc i do have but not turk, its from Trapezounda my grandfather grandfather was there.... most probably u are 100% Greek like me. Check on ur relatives for example do u have any name foreigner? Me no all of them are Greek names or USA , English and rtc as many moved there.
Mostly my DNA is Spartan from my dad's side and my grand mother. Only my grand father aide comes from there. But to me it says italian middle east albania for no reason lol, caucasian turkey georgia kazankstan armebia and all this territory. If u read ancestry u ll see that i m right.
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I have researched my roots, and I have ancestry from the same sources. The Italian are the oldest I could find, coming from many ancestors of the senatorial class, the Gens that were the ancestors of Caesar, other Imperial ancestors as well. The oldest predated the founding of Rome by 30 some years. The North African included the Vandal Kingdom. The Middle East included the Parthians (these are mentioned in the Bible); as to the Middle East, I have traced at least one ancestor back to "Samarkand" in present Uzbekistan. There is also both Visigoth and Ostrogoth strains as well.
Unlike you, I have a lot of W European blood - mainly French (Roman based) and present day German, a minor amount of present day Austria/Poland/Ukraine ancestry, plus some very small amounts of Portuguese and Spanish. My Swiss is the opposite of these bloodlines - all peasant, mainly Mennonite/Amish. I do have one tropical African ancestor - the well known And de Sousa.

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al: what are your  sources for your ancient lineages?
Alwellus

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Old recorded from the family genealogies in Europe. I took confirmed names that could be proven historically, and then used Ancestry to find the links and then confirmed the links via internet research. I also used other family groups and checked via their blood lines.
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internet sites without citations are not to be trusted unless there is independent verification. ancestry.com is particularly bad at this as most trees refer to older trees as reference. the latter often  lacking non-internet sources
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That is why I confirmed any "questionable" finds with other inquiries into historical texts and older family trees of long standing acceptability.
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