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But if it can't be proved, then it can't go down as a record. The record can only be of the greatest age anyone is known and certified to have lived to, it can never be known what is the greatest age anyone ever actually did.
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I have no troubles at all with 'if it aint' recorded, it can't be considered a record'. 

I do have troubles (perhaps it is the contrarianism in me) with accepting only 'paper documents' as records.  Memories are records too...


I've seen the 'documents' and heard of the troubles my granny had to go through to get a drivers license and socialist insecurity account number and card(no birth certificate, no marriage license, no baptismal record...)

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Some may not have documentary evidence, others may never have been asked, yet others may not care to be in the record books for such a reason.  My point was that being in the record books as the "oldest" does not necissarily mean that this is indeed the case.  That person is simply the oldest person the rather tiny number of publishers of the book know about.

There are millions of people accross the planet that have no paper records as Baron points out.  All of them are simply discounted by the record books and the titles they confer.  The claim to the title of "oldest" is just not varifiable at all since there are plenty of people out there who could be older and can't or wont prove it.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/japans-oldest-person-115-year-old-chiyono-hasegawa-dies/2011/12/02/gIQAvNH2JO_story.html

Chiyono Hasegawa, the world's second-oldest person, and Japan's oldest, died today at the age of 115. She was born on November 20th, 1896. Jiroemon Kimura, born April 19th, 1897, is now the oldest living person in Japan, and is a male. Dina Manfredini, an Italian immigrant living in Iowa born on April 4th, 1897, is now the second-oldest person in the world. Besse Cooper, born August 26th, 1896 remains the world's oldest person and is the last human born in 1896.

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In April, Dina Manfredini became the first Italian in world history to turn 115. She has lived in Iowa since 1920.

Also in April, Jiroemon Kimura became the first Asian and third man in history to turn 115.

April was a good month to be old, huh?
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Happy 112th birthday to Paule Bronzini, la doyenne de France! She was born on July 7th, 1900.
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As of today, July 11th, 2012, Besse Cooper of Georgia, USA, has become the 10th oldest person in recorded history! Wow! 115 years, 320 days, think of how old that is!
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http://qctimes.com/news/local/shelby-harris-nation-s-oldest-man-dies-at/article_33ad6aae-d683-11e1-a4c3-0019bb2963f4.html

Shelby Harris, the oldest man in the USA, died yesterday at the age of 111. He was the 51st oldest living person in the world at the time of his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_Harris

He served as a Baptist deacon at his church until he was 102. He was also the third-oldest man on Earth as of his death. He was the last native-born American man born when William McKinley was President. He was born on March 31st, 1901.

The oldest living man in the United States is now James McCoubrey, born in Newfoundland on September 13, 1901, the day before William McKinley died. The new 51st oldest person in the world is 111-year-old Madeleine Mièze of France, born April 28th, 1901. The new third-oldest man on Earth is Francisco Fernandez of Spain, who just turned 111 two days ago. There is an accent on the a in Fernandez.
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Emelie Weil (Nov. 20th, 1899-July 2nd, 2012), 21st oldest person in the world.

She apparently lived a wild life.

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120710/NEWS0104/307090069/Emelie-Weil-112-world-s-21st-oldest-person?odyssey=nav|head
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Happy birthday to Soledad Mexia, 113 today! Everybody wish the awesome cool, got her leg amputated below the knee at 110 years 11 months, woman a happy birthday! She's a Mexican-American, having been born in Sinaloa in 1899. She lives in San Diego today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soledad_Mexia

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2010/aug/11/san-diego-woman-almost-111-making-history/
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Happy 113th birthday to Evelyn Kozak, the second-oldest Jew ever!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Kozak
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http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/news/local/news/general/australias-oldest-person-dies/2653388.aspx?storypage=1

Eva McConnell, the oldest person in Australia, died on August 15th at 111 years old. She was born in May 1901.

In other news, today world's oldest person Besse Cooper got a bridge named after her! She celebrates her 116th birthday the day after tomorrow.
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Happy 116th birthday to Besse Cooper of Georgia the state! She celebrates the 10th ever 116th birthday today! Yaaay, Besse! Woohoo!
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Happy 112th birthday to Paule Bronzini, la doyenne de France! She was born on July 7th, 1900.


La doyenne de France Paule Bronzini died today aged 112 years, 53 days.

The new doyenne de France is Maria Richard, born November 28th, 1900 in Belgium. The oldest native-born French person is now Eugénie Dauzat, born December 6th, 1900.   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Fern%C3%A1ndez_Fern%C3%A1ndez

Francisco Fernández Fernández died on September 7th aged 111. He was born on July 24th, 1901. He was the oldest living person in Spain, the oldest man in Europe, and the third-oldest living man in the world.

The new oldest living person in Spain is Francisca García Torres, who turns 111 on the 13th. There is no new oldest living man in Europe as none have been fully verified yet, though it may turn out to be Arturo Licata of Italy, born May 2nd, 1902. Interestingly enough, the title of oldest living European-born person goes to American Carl Berner, born in Germany on January 27th, 1902. The third-oldest living man in the world is now James McCoubrey, born September 13th, 1901.
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