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CaesarII

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Ha! Where can I get that chocolat?



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Unfortunately I've never seen it up north anyway. It seems to be an exclusively Latin American variety.

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Funny thing is, there's never been a Carlos V, though TR might beg to differ. The Emperor Charles or Karl V was Carlos I as King of Spain, and Carlos IV is as high as it's got. Of course the Spanish do call him Carlos V, just as we call him Charles V rather than Karl, but strictly speaking that's as Emperor not King.

I don't have much of a sweet tooth, but I must admit I'd try one of those bars if I saw one!
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I was thinking much the same!

But not that you have brought up the subject, I wonder if there is any preferred manner for the use of non-English names (and titles for that matter). Why are some names and titles translated into English while others are not?

Take the last monarch of Russia for example. His title is almost always rendered into the common transliteration 'Tsar' (or sometimes 'Czar'), rather then being translated as 'Emperor' or (more correctly) 'Caesar'. But at the same time the English form of his name is used with the transliterated title, Tsar Nicholas II, rather then Nikolai/Nicholai.

Another example. Is the last Austrian Emperor Charles or Karl? When speaking of him as the King of Hungary, do we continue to use either the English or German forms of his name, or do switch to the Hungarian Károly? As for his title, is it the German Kaiser, the common English translation as 'Emperor', or the more correct translation as 'Caesar'?

Should all try to adopt a single format here?
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I'm far from consistent myself, seems to be a matter of mood with me. I try to be consistent within posts, but don't always manage even that! The actual transliteration of the Russian for Emperor (a quite separate word from Tsar) is Imperator, which of course was the original Latin word. I wouldn't agree that Kaiser should be even theoretically translated into Caesar, even though that is clearly the root of the word. The equivalent title in English is Emperor, and that's how it should be translated, I feel.

Tsar is similarly derived, but in most cases should be translated as King. The very lengthy full Imperial title had the Emperor as Tsar of Poland and Georgia and a fair few other places, and clearly King was intended. Nor when Ferdinand I made himself Tsar of the Bulgarians was he claiming Imperial rather than Royal status. Confusingly, Russian has another word for King, Korol, but that is never used for Slavic monarchs. It would be used these days for Albert II and Juan Carlos I and Carl XVI Gustaf and Harald V, but were the Crown of Serbia to be happily restored to Crown Prince Alexander II he would be called the Tsar of Serbia by Russians.

Who by the way did and do habitually call the Emperors Tsars, even though the title was changed as long ago as 1721. Just couldn't break the habit, I guess, and of course it is the same everywhere. I pedantically insist on saying Emperor, but most people anywhere would say Tsar.
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On the particular subject of Bl. Karl or Charles I, if speaking of him as King of Hungary I would say you call him either Charles IV or IV. Károly (Hungarian is one of those bass-ackwards languages). Karl IV would be wrong unless you were writing in German. In general on your question I would say that writing in English it is legitimate to use either the English or native form of the name, though it would be desirable to be consistent either way. When the native form is actually in a different alphabet, as with Russian and Greek, my preference would be for English, as you are only going to be using a transliteration and not the actual native form. My two cents.

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Unfortunately I've never seen it up north anyway. It seems to be an exclusively Latin American variety.

 
They are made in Mexico, by Nestle. They also make a 'Mexican hot chocolate', a chocolate with cinnamon flavouring, which I love, designed to be melted in milk as a drink. All the 'Carlos V' brands are becoming more and more available in the States. Not too many years ago the chocolate for cocoa was all that was available, in the 'gourmet' section of supermarkets. Now, you can find the chocolate bars in convenience stores.

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I wonder how they came about the name? What made them choose it or what the connection was? Of course, the only thing that could be better would be a Mexican candy named "Carlota"

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Mine is simply myself, taken by a friend of mine at a local  store, nothing glamorous I fear.

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You look very good! A real Italian. Happy and smiling!
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Hahaha that's one way to put it.

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The Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of the Vatican City, Patriarch of the West, Servant of Servants of God, His Holiness, Pope Pius XII (wearing Papal tiara of Blessed Pius IX)
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Nicely done.

Is Italy the only nation where the Primate resides in another country?

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Nicely done. Is Italy the only nation where the Primate resides in another country?


You know, I'm not sure. From the top of my head, I can't name a Pope in recent history who has had a "vacation home" outside of the Italian peninsula.


I found the title "Primate" interesting though (I know what it means) but it has such potential for abuse from the political cartoonists who make caricatures.

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