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NapoleonBonaparte

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Today, a Haitian speaker came to my school. He was talking about how bad it is in Haiti and how he is grateful for the school, or at least the individuals, for helping Haiti but he didn't only talked about Haiti after the earthquake. He also talked about things prior to the earthquake. He is talking about child slavery that's going on in Haiti. He wants to help the children by giving them education so they would be able to think about their children's future and not give them away as slaves. Ironic actually for the slaves before revolted and successfully secede from France and establish a republic. It is the only slave revolt known to establish a republic. The man mentioned actually talked to Bill Clinton and Bill promised to do something about this. I thought that this would be a perfect time for anyone who wants to be a monarch to step in. Since the whole world is looking at Haiti, he could gain support from the world community and the famous guest we had by doing something about the child slavery and giving education for everyone. In return, the world community will provide help to maintain this government and protect it from enemies of monarchy. I'm sure no one would be so foolish to make the whole world mad at you by being tyrant. They could easily kick him out of position. Just thought I would share these thoughts and would like some of your opinions.

Someone said that in order for people to adopt monarchy in this time a great calamity must occur. I guess the Haitians have it already. They are already struggling to begin with but with the big quake, things are a lot worse, even though they always keep their spirits up.

I am aware that the world community might say no unless it'll be democracy or republic.


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It's feasible, I suppose if you came from a legitimate line of succession, you would have a better chance.

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True.
This is also a good chance for a monarchist to gain fame by helping Haiti, may it be politically or socially or in other aspects. Later on, he'll be influential and might be able to hasten the restoration of monarchies.


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Do you honestly think the US would allow that? Our government paint the man a dictator, and threaten to withdraw all support. The poor nation is too badly suffering, and will have a difficult time pulling out on its own.
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Thinking about the instability and corruption plaguing Haiti, like many little-developed countries, the idea of a Haitian monarch did come into my mind. I think if ever there was a time for a hero to come riding out of the shadows to inspire Haiti, now would be the time, however, I'm still not holding my breath. Who will do it, and how will he or she go about doing it?
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oh like Napoleon? setting the discouraged souls of the French populace on fire after the chaos caused by the revolution
speaking of undeveloped countries, those are good sites for restoring monarchy and hopefully we'll be able to spread it


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Haiti was an elective Empire under Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who was proclaimed Emperor Jackques I between 1804 until his assasination in 1806.

  Then in 1811, President Henry Christophe was proclaimed King Henry I of Haiti (he always used the English spelling of the name), but only ruled over the northern half of the country as the southern half was ruled by President Alexandre Petion.  King Henry created a Haitian nobility, with 4 Princes, 8 Dukes, 22 Counts, 37 Barons and 14 Chevaliers.  The King commited suicide in October 1820 and his heir was murdered 10 days later bringing the Kingdom to an end and re-uniting the southern and northern halves of Haiti under a single republican government.  President Pierre Nord Alexis who governed Haiti between 1902 and 1908 was the grandson of King Henry, and Michele Bennett Duvalier, the first Lady of President Jean-Claude Duvalier is the King's great-great-great-granddaughter.  (The Duvaliers are now divorced).

Faustin-Elie Soulouque who was elected President of Haiti in 1847 was proclaimed Emperor of Haiti as Faustin I.  Faustin I established a new exclusively black nobility, creating 4 Princes, 59 Dukes, 2 Marquises, 99 Counts, 215 Barons and dozens of hereditary Chevaliers.  He also created the Orders of St. Faustin, the Civil Order of the Haitian Legion of Honr and the Orders of St. Mary Magdalene and St. Anne.  He also led a failed attempt to conquer the Dominican Republic.  He was overthrown by General Geffrard who had been made Duc de Tabara.  The Emperor went into exile in Jamaica, but returend to died in Haiti in 1867.

There is some dispute as to whether or not Slvain Salnave was actually proclaimed Emperor in 1868.  If he was, then as Emperor Sylvain I he started a fourth dynasty, but as far as I know this line is extinct.

Therefore there are three possible lines of descent that could claim to be monarch of Haiti under the titles of either Emperor of King of Haiti (Dessalines, Christophe, and Soulouque).  I'm not sure if there are lines of descent in all three lines.  Below is a photograph of the imperial crown of the Soulouque family.

 La couronne de Faustin transportée en un lieu plus sécuritaire.




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What a magnificent crown! I like the different shades of blue. Thanks for the information. Even though these people, the descendants if there are still some, aren't probably thinking of taking the Crown but it's nice to know there are possible options. Of course, it is still highly unlikely that the Haitians would embrace the Monarchy again.
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Monarchy does not have deep roots in Haiti, partly because it has been a republic for the vast majority of it's history, and because no monarch has been able to establish a succession that actually took.


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Speaking of Haiti, we just started talking about the Haitian Revolution in our history class and again, Napoleon had an influence on this.

and Ethiomonarchist's post can help me actually. We talked about Jean-Jacques Dessalines. He was actually the successor of the revolutionary, Toussiant L'Ouverture, but he declared himself emperor instead. Although, I do not know Toussaint's government. It was probably like the US.

Interesting name. His name (Tout Saints= "All saints" or with his his last name "All souls opening" )

Just some trivia XD

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To be honest with you there is no way a monarchy will be establish in Haiti.  The U.S. will not allow that to happen, because it will go against there interest in region.  Then you have to consider the people of Haiti do they want to establish and monarchy there.  Just like Ethiomonarchist said before Haiti really do not have and establish history of and monarchy.  There are some descendants of Haitian royal houses, but would they consider the offer to rule as monarchs or not.    


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Don't be a Toussiant!
Ah, how oft I heard that!


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Screw the US! Democracy...right. Loads of cow dung! Look at this country right now! Struggling! People are blinded by "freedom" and believe they have "freedom" on everything. The government needs to be firm and say NO!! Sorry off-topic XD

Don't be Toussaint? XD


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Could monarchy become and reality in Haiti?
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Hi guys;
Nice comments by Napoleon Bonaparte
Thanks




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