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The "palestinians" voted in Hamas by a overwhelming 77%.

And whose fault is that?  It's the Zionist policies, for the most part, that radicalized these people in the first place.  It takes a lot of chutzpah for you to whine about it now.


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Thanks for posting that.  Next to liturgical dance, this is one of the most vomit-worthy things I've ever seen in my life.


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Your most welcome, if that's the case I'm tempted to go back to the Christian Falangist website and look for more

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haha I have been to there site. I like them.



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Yeah, they seem to have more right than they do wrong. I think they go too far on the "Americanism" but a healthy love of country is a good thing -helps you want to make it better. You will have also noticed that the CFP is very pro-Lebanon, specifically pro-the Falangist Lebanese party which means they don't like the idea of Hezbollah taking root and making Lebanon a Syrian-Iranian puppet state and welcome the eradication of the terrorist organization by Israel or whoever is willing. 

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yes they are too pro-isreal when I just see Isreal as the lesser of two evils. Besides that I would vote for them.

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I agree, and from my dealings with them I don't think they would entirely disagree. They are definitely anti-Muslim, pro-America and pro-Christian (in as far as the two allow anyway) and from the amount of info they've put out about the Crusades & what not, I think they'd be in favor of anyone who is fightings Muslims. I had to refresh myself though, they are not just sympathetic to the Christian Falangist Party of Lebanon, that was actually their inspiration for the party as I've been reminded.

 

If they ran a candidate I'd vote for him over the other alternatives.

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First of all, this reeks of propaganda and is just the sort of talk that will turn people to the opposite viewpoint they are pushing here.

 

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That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads.

And of course if the UN says so it must be true! You can always believe what the UN says, they are such good, fair, decent people in charge of that organization.

 

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Of course, you don't know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.

It has been my experience that the US media tends to ignore anything that would help the administration; not make it look worse.

 

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Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN "NO." Bush has told the European Union "NO." Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister "NO." Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel's rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.

Well maybe he is getting some brains then. It is when American politicians start saying "Yes" to the UN and "Yes" to the European Union that I start getting hot under the collar.

 

The Palestinians are no angels, neither is Israel for that matter, but I will not make myself their enemy. Israel tends to be a little quick on the trigger for the simple reason that they are surrounded by countries and movements that do not recognize their right to *live*. Hezbollah is nothing but a front for the Islamic Republic of Iran who are as evil as evil gets. It is also rather hard to feel too sorry for those "great" Palestinian Muslims when Israel not so long ago offered them everything they had been demanding and they turned it down. And it doesn't surprise me that the EU would be against this, Europe has been so overrun by the Muslims that they don't want to do anything that might offend the poor darlings for fear that they will see a repeat of the French burnings or the Danish cartoon freak-out.

I agree. No one here likes the UN. The UN would oppose any form of war for the most part. If a country were being attacked by anoter, the UN would still suggest "peace talks"/ The UN would oppose all our views too. I am finding myself siding with Lebanon, however I do admire Bush for oppising the UN. The UN thinks they are infalliable or somthing, and Bush has principals that he will not let some liberal group overide. How many democratic leaders in the world have that? Most will side with the UN or some political group just for votes or for a popular view. 

 

I watch Fox News too. Why? Because CNN is worse? At least Fox News has a half conservative base. The liberals always oppose every conservative principal--not saying neo-conservatism is true conservatism but the operative word is CONSERVATISM. So I agree with the guy I just quoted.  


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2. Zionism is an ideology, not a race.  There are non-Semites who are Zionists (especially "Christian" Zionists) and Semites who are non-Zionists (even anti-Zionists).  Thus, hating Zionists does not make one an anti-Semite.  The fact that I have to explain this to you shows a severe lack of intellect on your part.

 

 

 

This is quite true.  There is a group called "Neturei Karta International."  They are a self described group of Orthodox Jews united against Zionism.  (http://www.nkusa.org/

 

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The "palestinians" voted in Hamas by a overwhelming 77%. Hamas has a Nazi ideology and their open goal is the destruction of Israel and the death of first all Jews, then all non-Muslims. They are very open about that, rather then surrender any part of Eretz Yisrael, what Israel should do, and what will be done, is completely crush the "palestinians".

 

 

My response to this is a little off topic, but that's what you get with democracy.  I think it's hilarious to hear the Bush administration and other neo-cons complain about the electoral results in Palestine, especially since their sworn duty is to "spread freedom and democracy around the world."  The Palestinian people were free to vote either for or against Hamas, and Hamas is what they chose.  Even Hitler and the Nazis were democratically elected (yes, Hitler did do some good amount of political scheming to combine the offices of Chancellor and President, but he was still elected to the chancellorship).  If you faithfully believe in the rightness of democracy, don't complain when you don't get the results you wanted Mr. Bush.


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This is quite true.  There is a group called "Neturei Karta International."  They are a self described group of Orthodox Jews united against Zionism.  (http://www.nkusa.org/

 

 

They are also heretics who have been excommuicated by every Gadol biTorah

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This is quite true.  There is a group called "Neturei Karta International."  They are a self described group of Orthodox Jews united against Zionism.  (http://www.nkusa.org/

 

 

They are also heretics who have been excommuicated by every Gadol biTorah

Or maybe the Zionists are heretics:

 

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...if we place all the immodesty and promiscuity of the generation and the many sins of the world on one side of the scale, and the Zionist state on the other side of the scale by itself, it would outweigh them all. Zionism is the greatest form of spiritual impurity in the entire world. They are polluting the entire world. They have polluted the Jewish people with their heresy, Heaven help us. It is no surprise why G-d's anger comes down from heaven. It is necessary to repent and escape from them more than from a lion who is chasing a person to kill him.

 

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ztheresy.html

 

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Support for the Zionist movement was not initially a mainstream position in the world Jewish community, and it was actively opposed by many Jewish organizations. While traditional Jewish belief held that Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel) was given to the ancient Israelites by God, and that therefore the right of the Jews to that land was permanent and inalienable, most Orthodox groups held that the Messiah must appear before Israel could return to Jewish control...

 

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Many Jewish religious leaders were opposed to Zionism before the 1930s. The secular, socialist language used by many pioneer Zionists was contrary to the outlook of most religious Jewish communities, and many religious organisations opposed it, both on the grounds that it was a secular movement, and on the grounds that any attempt to re-establish Jewish rule in Israel by human agency was blasphemous, since (in their view) only the Messiah could accomplish this.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#Jewish_reaction_to_Zionism


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