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As long as Isreal bombs the muslims and not the christians I could care less how many nations they invade.

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As long as Isreal bombs the muslims and not the christians I could care less how many nations they invade.

That is evil and very wrong, muslims have just as much right to live as christians or any other person. This is one of the Josad brotherhood's teachings. It is not a man's faith which makes him good or evil, It is the man himself.


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Tell that to the muslims my friend. Christians have no right to live in there views. Oh and dont worry, if they were in charge you would die also.

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A Few Questions for Kofi Annan

By John E. Carey
July 26, 2006

As often occurs in the tricky world of international relations, President George Bush and the United States find themselves viewed by the rest of the world as supporting the wanton killing of innocent civilians right now.

And Hezbollah is to blame.

Using the most despicable trick known to man: hiding behind innocent civilians including women and children, the terrorists Hezbollah nation (you heard me right: “nation”) has found a way to antagonize Israel to such a point that the Israeli’s feel compelled to respond. And when they do respond with F-16s armed with precision guided weapons, innocents get killed.

So then Hezbollah drags mindless newsmen and women to the scene and screams, “Look what the bloodthirsty Jews are doing to us!!”

And the mindless news people even get a big time ally: Kofi Annan of the UN, to agree. Without the benefit of any investigation, today the leader of the world’s largest peace-loving organization, accused a sovereign member state of murdering peacekeepers intentionally. I find that deplorable.

Then we see a stampede of everyone who likes to knife the United States speaking out: like Jacque Chirac of France saying the Israeli response is “not proportional.” Hey, I’d like to see the French reaction to angry Arabs shooting unguided rockets into downtown Paris. In fact, we know exactly the French reaction when unhappy Arabs merely speak out about unemployment in France: they face hundreds of armed policemen.

Hezbollah brilliantly antagonized Israel to such a point that the Israeli’s sent their defense forces into Lebanon in an effort to get the Hezbollah to stop shooting rockets into Israel: rockets that have no guidance systems and kill indiscriminately.

So Israel, using many precision, laser guided bombs and other high tech equipments supplied by the United States, has gone into Lebanon. And much of the world blames, who else? The United States.

Well, I don’t mind saying I blame the Hezbollah, their backers in Syria and Iran, and the United Nations.

Blaming Hezbollah seems pretty straightforward. Hezbollah’s leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah is on the record:“This state [Israel] was established on the basis of occupation….I say that this is a state based on occupation, that has usurped the rights of others…. I don’t believe in the State of Israel as a legal state because it was founded on occupation.”

We have several complaints about this. First, by denying the legitimacy of a UN state, Hezbollah allows itself to treat the citizens of that state with distain. Hezbollah has been murdering innocent Jews for years. Second, why doesn’t Kofi Annan set the record straight on the legitimacy of Israel, which was created by UN mandate?

Why do we blame Syria and Iran? Because they admit guilt. In fact, they are proud of their bloodthirsty ways and want to eliminate the State of Israel, a State they do not recognize as “legitimate.”

"Iran is standing by the Syrian people," Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi proudly told reporters.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad boasted that Israel was not tough enough to counter Iran and also warned against an attack against Syria."Thanks be to God, despite its criminal and savage nature, the Zionist regime and its supporters in the West do not have the power to look in the same way towards Iran," the fiercely anti-Israeli president wailed."If Israel commits another act of idiocy and aggresses Syria, this will be the same as an aggression against the entire Islamic world and it will receive a stinging response," Ahmadinejad said in a telephone conversation with his Syrian counterpart Bashar al-Assad.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad famously described Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who is more hard-line than his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian attacks would be enough to finish off Israel. This in October 2005. Did we listen? Kofi?

This is the same Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proudly defying the UN and building a nuclear bomb. Kofi? You have anything to add on this?

And why do we blame the UN? Because the UN has been watching Hezbollah take over southern Lebanon, fortify itself, and attack Israel repeatedly for years. Officially called the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon, commonly called Unifil, these “peacekeepers” have been between Lebanon and Israel for 28 years at a cost of about one hundred million dollars a year.

We deeply mourn the loss of UN soldiers in the current fighting. But, we ask, what were they doing there? They are “observers,” “noncombatants,” and “peacekeepers.” Why didn’t Kofi Annan have them removed to safety when the fighting erupted? Kofi?

And what have they been doing for 28 years?"They [Unifil] are barely able to take care of themselves," said Timur Goksel, referring to the UN peacekeepers. "How can you expect them to do their work?"The blue-helmeted UN Unifil soldiers include a moderately trained and semi-disciplined Irish brigade. These Irish UN troops were routinely referred to as the "whisky army" by both Islam and Jewish observers who came into contact with them. The Israeli-backed Christian militiamen - known by the Unifil acronym LAUIs (Lebanese Armed and Uniformed by Israel) countered any effort by the Irish troops to stray far from their base at Camp Shamrock.

And I hate to throw red meat to red necks but who is commanding Unifil just now? The French.

Finally, why do we refer to Hezbollah as a “nation”? Because they have all the trappings of a nation.

Hezbollah controls its own media, including a TV station al-Manar (“The Beacon”), runs hotels and restaurants, and operates a thriving economy in southern Lebanon. Hezbollah provides social services that the government of Lebanon cannot afford to supply. It controls some 25% of the Lebanese land mass and almost half a million people. It runs its own schools, elderly centers, clinics, hospitals and libraries.

Hezbollah’s headquarters is called “The Embassy” by locals the in the part of Beirut called Dahiya, a crowded Shiite neighborhood where the Hezbollah has its seat of government..Hezbollah has seats in Lebanon's governing councils too. But more importantly, Hezbollah owns southern Lebanon and is the law in that region near Israel.But what makes Hezbollah very different, in fact unique in the history of stateless terror groups to date, is its access to very sophisticated missiles and other weapons. When did any group but a nation have Chinese-made C-802 “Silkworm” missiles capable of hitting an Israeli warship before? Kofi?How else is Hezbollah more like a "state" than a terror group? According to Israel's Dr. Boaz Ganor, the deputy dean of the Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy and the founder of the Institute for Counter Terrorism in Israel said, "The Hizbullah has succeeded in creating a situation in which it deters Israel more than Israel deters it. It is unprecedented for a terrorist organization to deter a state and not vice versa."

For the last 50 years deterrence meant nuclear weapons. Is that next for Hezbollah? Kofi?We do not know, and may never know, if Hezbollah possesses or has access to weapons of mass destruction or really long-range ballistic missiles. But certainly Israeli military planners fear and are at least somewhat deterred by Hezbollah because of what they have done in the past and what they may yet do in the future.
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Your photos shows one of many reasons I would drive them from the West and prohibit their immigration.  That said one can not simply kill an entire population because it not Christian.  One still is bound by the just war doctrine even when dealing with infidels.  Arabs deserve the right to live and breath without Jewish terrorist killing them.  That is not to say that Israel should not defend herself if unjustly attacked but must do so with just means. Israel’s unjust war by the way is killing Christians. 

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Hezbollah is a part of the Lebanese government as such the nation of Lebanon has begun a war with Israel not only Hezbollah. Hezbollah fired rockets on Israel and killed Israeli citizens no nation shouldn't defend herself.

 

Every nation's first responsibilty is to their own citizens as such Israel must do whatever is necessary to protect her citizens.

 

And we Jews obviously do not acccept the just war doctrine. That is Christian theology, we have our own rules for war and the opinion of the gentile is irrelevant to how we fight wars.

 

That being said, you might want to remember that it was the Maronite Christians who were allied with Israel, and who were rescued by Israel after the collapse of the S.L.A.

 

If you are interested in the opinion of a Christian who lived through the first Lebanese war and her experience with the Muslims of Lebanon check out Briggite Gabriel at  http://americancongressfortruth.com/ 



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Yes Christians are being killed -just as I said they would. So are Jews and Muslims -that's what happens when civilians are used as human shields by Hezbollah. As for the Bishops in Lebanon supporting their government (which includes Hezbollah reps) I am not surprised and could care less. The bishops in this country couldn't even agree to deny communion to abortionist politicians and largely welcome the invasion of illegal aliens from Mexico. Somehow I doubt you have many nice things to say about most bishops nor would cite any if they did not back up your own opinion.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, operating in Lebanon and attacking Israel from Lebanon. They started this trouble and since the Lebanese government is unable or unwilling (probably both) to control these terrorists, Israel will have to do it for them. If Israel does nothing and Hezbollah continues to entrench itself, the Middle East will become one big Iran. And just in case there is any doubt as to who Israel is fighting here, consider a *few* things:

 

-November 1979: Shia Muslims (Hezbollah ancestors) topple the Shah from power and hold 52 American hostages for 444 days, Jimmy "Colgate Smile" Carter does nothing and the Islamic fanatics gain morale from it.

 

- In 1982: Muslim terrorists, mostly Hezbollah, began a nearly decade-long habit of taking Americans and Europeans hostage in Lebanon, killing William Buckley and holding Terry Anderson for six and a half years.

-In April 1983: Muslim terrorists, including Islamic Jihad or possibly Hezbollah,  bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 16 Americans.

-In October 1983: Muslim terrorists, Hezbollah again, blew up the U.S. Marine barracks at the Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. 

-In September 1984: Muslim terrorists, you guessed it Hezbollah, exploded a truck bomb at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing 24 people, including two U.S. servicemen.

-In December 1984: Muslim terrorists, most likely Hezbollah, hijacked a Kuwait Airways airplane, landed in Iran and demanded the release of the 17 members of al-Dawa who had been arrested for the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait, killing two Americans before the siege was over. 

-In June 14, 1985: Muslim terrorists, yep Hezbollah again, hijacked TWA Flight 847 out of Athens, diverting it to Beirut, taking the passengers hostage in return for the release of the Kuwait 17 as well as another 700 prisoners held by Israel. When their demands were not met, the Muslims shot U.S. Navy diver Robert Dean Stethem and dumped his body on the tarmac. 

- October 1985: Muslim terrorists with Libyan backing seized the cruise ship, Achille Lauro, killing 69-year-old American Leon Klinghoffer by shooting him and then tossing his body overboard. Okay, that wasn't Hezbollah but it was Palestinians who have been spoken so highly of in previous posts. I'm sure Leon was a Zionist terrorist who deserved to be shot. 

-In November 1995: Muslim terrorists, pronably of the Iranian "Party of God" (more Shiite terrorists of the Hezbollah type -backed by Iran) exploded a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen. 

-In June 1996: Muslim terrorists (13 Saudis and a Lebanese member of Hezbollah) exploded a truck bomb outside the Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds. 

If there are pictures of Jewish grandmothers cheering the slaughter of civilians, or of Jewish children holding machine guns, or Israeli soldiers holding up the severed heads of their victims for the cameras I have not seen them. However I have seen plenty of it among the Muslim community. People use the term Judeo-Christian for a reason -as far as groups like Hezbollah is concerned we are all the same and they want to kill us all and personally I am in favor of anything that takes the fight to them because too many western leaders just don't have the courage.

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Yes I was overly harsh and unchristian. I am sorry I have had a hard time lately trying to contain my anger with muslims.

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"And we Jews obviously do not accept the just war doctrine. That is Christian theology, we have our own rules for war ."

 

 

 

Obviously! 

 

"The opinion of the gentile is irrelevant to how we fight wars"

 

 

 Perhaps but something tells me you do like the gentiles giving you Israel, giving you 3 billion dollars annually of gentile tax dollars,  the paying for 20% of your military expenditures, and for gentiles to supply you will bombs when you run low so you can level more cities.    

 


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The Kahaneists and Monarchists of Israel have all made it clear the moment we take power we will not accept one additional penny of foreign aid. It is against Halacha(Jewish law) to accept charity as a nation from non-Jewish nations. 

 

Besides which, American aid has been disastorous for Israel, it has created a pauper mentality where we beg our money from foreign governments forcing us to accept their influence. Israel has made insane strategic decisions because of a desire for American aid. Once we take over that will stop.

 

Furthermore, there is a clause in the treaty between America and Israel by which Israel accepts aid, which is actually 1.6 billion not three billion, that Israel is required to spend 75% of that aid on American companies. So aid to Israel is essentially indirect subsidies to American weapons companies.

 

As for American weapons, we could and do make our own weapons, but American pressure is the only reason we still buy American weapons. Since the Israeli made weapons are much better anyway. The US pressure is so intense Israel even, foolishly, discontinued the Lavi project, which was our own fighter jet superior to the F-16.

 

The only thing we need from the US that we can't produce ourselves is jet fuel, but even now we are getting closer, now it is only a matter of time till we have that too.

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For those wanting to know what we give out to Israel check here, it even surprised me:

 

http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/mission/amb/assistance.html

 

Given that the Israeli lobby is one of the most powerful lobbies in the nation and has the Zionist Neo-Con and Evangelical “Christians”  who would sacrifice all for Israel, I find your post hard to swallow. 


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Completely off topic for a moment here.   I believe the earthly Davidic throne continues through the throne of France.     The Romans were unable to locate a descendent of David, by what evidence does your pretender claim the title?


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I disagree completely with the Israel lobbies endless pushing for American aid. As should have been obvious from my previous post I want no foreign aid to Israel ever. But at this time the Monarchists arent in power hence Israel still accepts aid.

 

Whitecockade, Halacha(Jewish Law) allows two types of Kings; a male line descendent of King David, or a temporary dynasty not of David's line which holds power till the reestablishment of Malchut Beit David. But there is a halacha which disqualifies the Kings of France. Only someone born of two Jewish from birth parents is ever eligable for the Monarchy, so no Gentile could ever claim the throne.

 

I do not know about the Romans though the claim that they couldn't find a descendent of David HaMelech is extremely unlikely in that the Reish Galusa(doesn't traslate well, but Jewish King of Jews in exile is as close as I can get) was a direct male line descendent of David HaMelech. The first Reish Galusa was Jeconiah who had been king of Yehuda before being deposed.

 

As well as the Neseim of Judah who were the spiritual leaders of the Jewish commuity in Judah and often represented the Jewish commuity to the Romans were also direct male-descendents from David HaMelech, and were addressed as Nasi(Prince).

 

Prince Yosef Dayan is descended from the Reish Galusa's house of Bostanai the third dynasty of Reish Galusim. Prince Dayan has ancient documents attesting to his family's status as members of the Royal house as well as a complete Geneology that goes back to David HaMelech and secular historians and geneologists have confirmed the accuracy of both the documents and the geneology.

 

(b) the Dayan Family, whose eponymous ancestor was Yosef Dayan of Aleppo, Syria, who became the royal heir of [another] dynasty of the Jewish Palestinian Nesi'im, its collateral-line, the Nasi Family, upon its extinction, which were both representative of the House of Bostanai, the "3rd" dynasty of Babylonian Exilarchs. The Dayan Family appears to have the best claim to Israel's throne. http://members.aol.com/rdavidh218/davidicdynasty.html

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