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From Fr. Gregory Stockport, an Antiochian Orthodox priest:

 

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This is a report and comment on the current situation in the Lebanon from a Lebanese Orthodox Christian of the Patriarchate of Antioch.

Lebanongrad: 9 days of hell


Picture and Petition Link - "From Israel to Lebanon"

Facts

* On Wednesday 12 July, early morning, Israel began its open destructive war against its weak northern neighbour Lebanon.

* On Thursday 13, the Israelis created a land, sea and air blockade around Lebanon.

* From the very beginning, no part of Lebanon was safe: the South, Beirut (i.e. the capital), Mount Lebanon, the North and the Beqaa Valley.
Southern Lebanon became a burnt land, and Beirut a levelled land.

* The Israeli Army has a massive arsenal of destruction at its disposal with very advanced technology capable of attack over land, sea, and air.
During their current bombing they are using phosphoric and other chemical weapons forbidden by international laws.

* They are targeting innocent civilians breaking all international laws and principals of the civilised world and all human conventions.
This is an immoral, unjust, inhuman and barbaric war.

* The Israeli Army is bombing fiercely the country by land, sea and air.
They are destroying the entire civilian infrastructure: airports, ports, bridges, roads, highways, dams, electricity factories, water factories, telephone and mobile towers and cables, petrol stations, food factories, hospitals and infirmaries, ambulances and fire brigades, schools and universities, etc. In addition, they are also bombing religious places, Christian and Muslim alike, and civilian houses.
This is what we call state sponsored terrorism.

* There is a shortage of food, water, medication, shelters, petrol and gas. The water, electricity and telecommunications, have been cut. As a result of this, there is a great fear of disease spreading.

* People are living in great despair, depression, fear, panic and terror.
It is a huge tragedy, disaster, and catastrophe.
All Lebanese, Christian and Muslim, are hostages under the Israelis’ fire and terrorism.

* This aggressive and fierce bombing is affecting all Lebanese without any exception, Christian and Muslim alike, including the Orthodox Christian community (that belongs to the Patriarchate of Antioch).

* Tuesday 18, at 13:22pm, the Israeli Army bombed - by land and air - the old Orthodox Church of St. George in Rashaiya Fakhar (Hasbaiya, Southern Lebanon) as well as its meeting house, the parish priest house and the Orthodox School with 15 bombs, some of them are phosphoric. It destroyed the southern wall of the church and caused a big fire in it. At that time, many parishioners were hiding and praying with their parish priest asking God’s protection. Ten were burnt and wounded. I have to mention that there was a white flag flying on top of the church.

* Since Tuesday 18, the Israeli Army was prepared and ready on the Israeli-Lebanese border to invade the country after turning it to a burnt land.

* To date, Thursday 19, the preliminary results of the bombing actions are:
- More than 10,000 Israeli’s air raid on Lebanon
- More than 100 tones of Israeli bombs have been dropped on Beirut every day
- More than 500 civilians killed
- More than 1500 civilians wounded and burnt
- More than 500,000 civilian refugees living in schools, playgrounds, garages, car parks, tents or even in the open air
- More than 200,000 civilians left the country
- More than 6 billion dollars (approximately 3 billion pounds) lost

* To summarise all that in one word, it is ‘HELL’.
From now on you can call Lebanon ‘Lebanongrad’.

The World’s Silence

* The worst of all, ‘the civilised world’ is watching ‘Lebanongrad’ burning; like Nero watching Rome burning.

* On Friday 14, during the Security Council meeting in New York, the US raised a veto against any resolution to condemn Israel. Ever since then, President George Bush has been giving statements that he is against any ceasefire.
On Sunday 16, during the G8 Summit in St. Petersburg, he repeated the same statement.

* On Tuesday 18, the UK began to evacuate its citizens from ‘dangerous’ Lebanon. The Americans, French, Germans, and other European countries are also evacuating tens of thousands of their citizens stuck their. These foreigners are tourists, but some of them live and work there.

* On Wednesday 19, Prime Minister Tony Blair repeated what Bush was saying that he is also against any ceasefire.

Hope and Request

* We have a very powerful mass constructive weapon in hand: Prayer.
Please, pray, pray and pray.
Pray that God grant Lebanon and its people the peace from above, protect them, end their suffering and have mercy on them.

* Pray, especially, for our Orthodox Metropolitans and all their clergy, monks and parishioners.
Remember:
- Elias of Tyre and Sidon (Southern Lebanon)
- Elias of Beirut
- George of Byblos and Botrys (Mount Lebanon)
- Elias of Tripoli and Koura (Northern Lebanon)
- Paul of Akkar (Northern Lebanon)
- Spiridon of Baalbeck and Zahleh (Beqaa Valley)

 

http://antiochabouna.blogspot.com/2006/07/lebanongrad.html


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Israel should not be able to get away with this.

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It can get away with it because their pet super-power blocks any attempts to check the Israelis. 

 

Paul Craig Roberts writes,

 

 

There never was any doubt of the Bush regime's complicity in Israel's naked aggression against the Lebanese civilian population. Bush has protected Israel from world condemnation. Bush has blocked those who attempted to bring a stop to Israel's bombing of residential neighborhoods and civilian infrastructure, and now Bush rushes more bombs for Israel to drop on Lebanon.

 

 

You see for the Zionist neo-cons liking there just has not been enough bombs dropped on Lebanon so we are rushing them to Israel for their use.   The sad thing is that most people do not know that this was all planned long before.  There was a detailed plan to remove Saddam in order to make it possible to move on Syria and Iran through Lebanon.  This war was planned years ago and has nothing to do with the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.

 

In the year 2000 the Neo-Con Zionists in, A Clean Break:
A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, write:

 

 

Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon. Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria's regional ambitions." 

 

 

Bush’s recent expletive containing comment to king-want-to-be Tony Blair that Syria needs to stop Hezbollah should make us wonder if he was sleeping through the last year.  Lebanon was held by Syria and the Bush administration supported Lebanon’s independence and Syria’s withdraw.  Now that they have withdrawn Bush says, Syria needs to stop Lebanon's Hezbollah.  When the “free” world is run by idiots look out.


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The Shame of Being an American
by Paul Craig Roberts

Gentle reader, do you know that Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon? Israel has ordered all the villagers to clear out. Israel then destroys their homes and murders the fleeing villagers. That way there is no one to come back and nothing to which to return, making it easier for Israel to grab the territory, just as Israel has been stealing Palestine from the Palestinians.

Do you know that one-third of the Lebanese civilians murdered by Israel's attacks on civilian residential districts are children? That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads. Considering how often (almost always) Israel misses Hezbollah targets and hits civilian ones, one might think that Israeli fire is being guided by US satellites and US military GPS. Don't be surprised at US complicity. Why would the puppet be any less evil than the puppet master?

Of course, you don't know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.

Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN "NO." Bush has told the European Union "NO." Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister "NO." Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel's rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.

Does it make you a Proud American that "your" president gave Israel the green light to drop bombs on convoys of villagers fleeing from Israeli shelling, on residential neighborhoods in the capital of Beirut and throughout Lebanon, on hospitals, on power plants, on food production and storage, on ports, on civilian airports, on bridges, on roads, on every piece of infrastructure on which civilized life depends? Are you a Proud American? Or are you an Israeli puppet?

On July 20, "your" House of Representatives voted 410-8 in favor of Israel's massive war crimes in Lebanon. Not content with making every American complicit in war crimes, "your" House of Representatives, according to the Associated Press, also "condemns enemies of the Jewish state."

Who are the "enemies of the Jewish state"?

They are the Palestinians whose land has been stolen by the Jewish state, whose homes and olive groves have been destroyed by the Jewish state, whose children have been shot down in the streets by the Jewish state, whose women have been abused by the Jewish state. They are Palestinians who have been walled off into ghettos, who cannot reach their farm lands or medical care or schools, who cannot drive on roads through Palestine that have been constructed for Israelis only. They are Palestinians whose ancient towns have been invaded by militant Zionist "settlers" under the protection of the Israeli army who beat and persecute the Palestinians and drive them out of their towns. They are Palestinians who cannot allow their children outside their homes because they will be murdered by Israeli "settlers."

The Palestinians who confront Israeli evil are called "terrorists." When Bush forced free elections on Palestine, the people voted for Hamas. Hamas is the organization that has stood up to Israel. This means, of course, that Hamas is evil, anti-Semitic, un-American and terrorist. The US and Israel responded by cutting off all funds to the new government. Democracy is permitted only if it produces the results Bush and Israel want.

Israelis never practice terror. Only those who are in Israel's way are terrorists.

Another enemy of the Jewish state is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a militia of Shi'ite Muslims created in 1982 when Israel first invaded Lebanon. During this invasion the great moral Jewish state arranged for the murder of refugees in refugee camps. The result of Israel's atrocities was Hezbollah, which fought the Israeli Army, defeated it, and drove it out of Lebanon. Today Hezbollah not only defends southern Lebanon but also provides social services such as orphanages and medical care.

To cut to the chase, the enemies of the Jewish state are any Muslim country not ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the oil emirates have sided with Israel against their own kind, because they are dependent either on American money or on American protection from their own people. Sooner or later these totally corrupt governments that do not represent the people they rule will be overthrown. It is only a matter of time.

Indeed Bush and Israel may be hastening the process in their frantic effort to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran. Both governments have more popular support than Bush has, but the White House Moron doesn't know this. The Moron thinks Syria and Iran will be "cakewalks" like Iraq, where ten proud divisions of the US military are tied down by a few lightly armed insurgents.

If you are still a Proud American, consider that your pride is doing nothing good for Israel or for America.

On July 20 when "your" House of Representatives, following "your" US Senate, passed the resolution in support of Israel's war crimes, the most powerful lobby in Washington, the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), quickly got out a press release proclaiming "The American people overwhelming support Israel's war on terrorism and understand that we must stand by our closest ally in this time of crisis."

The truth is that Israel created the crisis by invading a country with a pro-American government. The truth is that the American people do not support Israel's war crimes, as the CNN quick poll results make clear and as was made clear by callers into C-Span.

Despite the Israeli spin on news provided by US "reporting," a majority of Americans do not approve of Israeli atrocities against Lebanese civilians. Hezbollah is located in southern Lebanon. If Israel is targeting Hezbollah, why are Israeli bombs falling on northern Lebanon? Why are they falling on Beirut? Why are they falling on civilian airports? On schools and hospitals?

Now we arrive at the main point. When the US Senate and House of Representatives pass resolutions in support of Israeli war crimes and condemn those who resist Israeli aggression, the Senate and House confirm Osama bin Laden's propaganda that America stands with Israel against the Arab and Muslim world.

Indeed, Israel, which has one of the world's largest per capita incomes, is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. Many believe that much of this "aid" comes back to AIPAC, which uses it to elect "our" representatives in Congress.

This perception is no favor to Israel, whose population is declining, as the smart ones have seen the writing on the wall and have been leaving. Israel is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Muslims who are being turned into enemies of Israel by Israel's actions and inhumane policies.

The hope in the Muslim world has always been that the United States would intervene in behalf of compromise and make Israel realize that Israel cannot steal Palestine and turn every Palestinian into a refugee.

This has been the hope of the Arab world. This is the reason our puppets have not been overthrown. This hope is the reason America still had some prestige in the Arab world.

The House of Representatives resolution, bought and paid for by AIPAC money, is the final nail in the coffin of American prestige in the Middle East. It shows that America is, indeed, Israel's puppet, just as Osama bin Laden says, and as a majority of Muslims believe.

With hope and diplomacy dead, henceforth America and Israel have only tooth and claw. The vaunted Israeli army could not defeat a rag tag militia in southern Lebanon. The vaunted US military cannot defeat a rag tag, lightly armed insurgency drawn from a minority of the population in Iraq, insurgents, moreover, who are mainly engaged in civil war against the Shi'ite majority.

What will the US and its puppet master do? Both are too full of hubris and paranoia to admit their terrible mistakes. Israel and the US will either destroy from the air the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iran so that civilized life becomes impossible for Muslims, or the US and Israel will use nuclear weapons to intimidate Muslims into acquiescence to Israel's desires.

Muslim genocide in one form or another is the professed goal of the neoconservatives who have total control over the Bush administration. Neocon godfather Norman Podhoretz has called for World War IV (in neocon thinking WW III was the Cold War) to overthrow Islam in the Middle East, deracinate the Islamic religion and turn it into a formalized, secular ritual.

Rumsfeld's neocon Pentagon has drafted new US war doctrine that permits pre-emptive nuclear attack on non-nuclear states.

Neocon David Horowitz says that by slaughtering Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, "Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world," thus equating war criminals with civilized men.

Neocon Larry Kudlow says that "Israel is doing the Lord's work" by murdering Lebanese, a claim that should give pause to Israel's Christian evangelical supporters. Where does the Lord Jesus say, "go forth and murder your neighbors so that you may steal their lands"?

The complicity of the American public in these heinous crimes will damn America for all time in history.



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First of all, this reeks of propaganda and is just the sort of talk that will turn people to the opposite viewpoint they are pushing here.

 

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That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads.

And of course if the UN says so it must be true! You can always believe what the UN says, they are such good, fair, decent people in charge of that organization.

 

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Of course, you don't know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.

It has been my experience that the US media tends to ignore anything that would help the administration; not make it look worse.

 

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Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN "NO." Bush has told the European Union "NO." Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister "NO." Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel's rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.

Well maybe he is getting some brains then. It is when American politicians start saying "Yes" to the UN and "Yes" to the European Union that I start getting hot under the collar.

 

The Palestinians are no angels, neither is Israel for that matter, but I will not make myself their enemy. Israel tends to be a little quick on the trigger for the simple reason that they are surrounded by countries and movements that do not recognize their right to *live*. Hezbollah is nothing but a front for the Islamic Republic of Iran who are as evil as evil gets. It is also rather hard to feel too sorry for those "great" Palestinian Muslims when Israel not so long ago offered them everything they had been demanding and they turned it down. And it doesn't surprise me that the EU would be against this, Europe has been so overrun by the Muslims that they don't want to do anything that might offend the poor darlings for fear that they will see a repeat of the French burnings or the Danish cartoon freak-out.

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I think you need to turn Fox “News” off for a while. 


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For your information I don't even get Fox News Channel. I did hear though (not from Fox News) that Hezbollah started launching rockets today from the Christian Blaybel area. I'm not going to be surprised when Israel retaliates. When civilians are used as human shields, civilians will die. I would challenge anyone to have a look at the Hezbollah controlled southern Lebanon border and tell me these people are not bloodthirsty terrorists. There's a huge billboard with anti-Israeli slogans all over it and a picture of a Hezbollah terrorist holding a bloody, severed head -yeah, real nice guys. And what is fluttering in the breeze overhead? The flags of Lebanon and the United Nations.

However, if the UN is your version Fox News, you may want to double check whoever wrote that article up you posted. Just looking at Yahoo! News today there was an Associated Press story which quoted the same UN official, Jan Egeland, in Cyprus saying that, "Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children," he said. "I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men."

 

"I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee"

...just couldn't resist adding that, it is always infuriating to anyone who is against Israel

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You seem to have misunderstood my intent, which was never to defend Islamic terrorist.  I have no love for Hezbollah, which by the way was created to repel the then ’82 Israeli invasion of Lebanon.  I get the feeling that anyone militantly opposed to Zionism is a terrorist in your book.  Why a board with anti-Israel slogans, gee there is a justification for war!  Much like the Holy Father, I am opposed to the U.S./Israeli aggression. 


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While that is true you failed to finish the quote, but I found it:

 

He called Israel's offensive "disproportionate" and "a violation of international humanitarian law."

 

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is a paleo-conservative who writes for a number of conservative journals including Pat Buchanan’s “The American Conservative”.   

 


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The article you posted made Hezbollah out to be heroes and was idiotically black & white, which real life seldom is. If you are "getting the feeling" that I must be a Zionist who calls everyone a terrorist who disagrees, I might just get the feeling you are an anti-Semite. . . .where does assuming and name calling really get anyone? And don't start trying to sound holier than thou by siding with the Pope, the Pope condemns every war, the Pope is against any war -big surprise. I also don't believe for a minute that many of the Catholics on this board would support anything the Pope said they didn't already agree with, especially on political issues.

 

Do I think Israel deserves and should have their own homeland? Yes I do, and when they are surrounded by enemies who deny their right to exist and breath air on this planet they certainly have a right to defend themselves. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, it is a puppet of Iran and they are embraced by Lebanon. Israel has given warning to areas about to be attacked, Hezbollah has not. Israel keeps military installations far away from civilian areas, Hezbollah uses human shields. Israel targets missile launch sites, Hezbollah targets civilians, even dropping a few rockets on Nazareth.

 

As for the author, just the association with Pat Buchanan says it all. He is right on the money about 90% of the time, but he always has been and always will be totally anti-Israel. Hence the old joke about him having an uncle who died in a concentration camp. . . . . .he fell off a guard tower.

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Do we need to define Zionist?  The Jewish state was artificially created after WWII.  Since arriving they have done nothing but perpetrate violence.  I am willing to admit that these Islamic groups commit war crimes so why are you not willing to admit Israel also commits terrorist acts?  For not being a Zionist you know how to play their anti-Semite card. Play it as freely as you wish it is old hat.  As Paul Craig Roberts wrote (knowing how Zionists think):

 

"It is not anti-Semitic to hold Israel to the same standards as other civilized countries or to report facts instead of Israeli propaganda."

 


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You started the name-calling here not me. Saying that the entire existence of the State of Israel has been nothing but aggressive violence is possibly the most anti-Semitic thing you have said so far. Israel has not been perfect, I never said they were, yet you "seem to think" that I'm Zionist just because I don't think Israel should just lay down and die when they are attacked. Maybe if six million of your people were massacred you would think differently and maybe if you were surrounded by enemies who refused to negotiate or bargain so long as you drew breath, maybe you would feel differently too.

I don't condone everything Israel has done, but the hatred at work here has nothing to do with politics, it is much deeper than that. In that conflict, I may not take a side directly but I certainly know who's side I will *not* be on.

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    Oh my now you drag out the holocaust, gee I did not see that one coming.   Now this discussion really has run its course.   I need not call you anything; I will let your replies speak for themselves.  Reply to this closing post if you wish, but I think my part here is done.   


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Saying that the entire existence of the State of Israel has been nothing but aggressive violence is possibly the most anti-Semitic thing you have said so far.

Why is that anti-Semitic at all?


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Understanding the history of a people is understanding who they are -or are you one of the "the Holocaust was a huge hoax that never happened, invented by the Jewish media to defame poor Hitler" crowd? You present an article that makes Israel a devil and Hezbollah a saint, fling insults at me for trying to bring a little perspective, label a whole nation as wicked and then act like its forbidden to bring up anything that might actually add some understanding to the issue.

 

BTW, just before signing on I saw that Hezbollah has rejected the peace offer.

 

Yes, I'm not a big fan of Hamas or Hezbollah, nor any of the "death to the West" Muslims, be they in the Middle East or burning cars in Paris or rioting over cartoons in Denmark. Israel, like every people, have the right to a country of their own and the right to live in safety and security. If that makes me a bad guy to anyone here, so be it. It would be just this sort of talk that makes my parents pray that I come to my senses and abandon Catholicism every Sabbath for the last four years.

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