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I will support establishing an independent Kurdish state in a deglaciated Antarctica, if establishing an independent Kurdish state in Kurdistan is impossible. Stateless ethnic groups ought to be allowed to settle in a deglaciated Antarctica. 
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You're kind of spoofing yourself here. Your fascination with Kurdistan is understandable even if somewhat overdone here, with Antarctica rather less obviously explicable. But mixing the two?
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I will support establishing an independent British state in a depopulated Kurdistan, if establishing an independent British state in the British Isles is impossible. Eurosceptic nations ought to be allowed to settle in a depopulated Kurdistan.

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You're kind of spoofing yourself here. Your fascination with Kurdistan is understandable even if somewhat overdone here, with Antarctica rather less obviously explicable. But mixing the two?

I have always been fascinated with the polar regions. In addition, Antarctica will become the land of opportunity, as America once was, when the ice melts in Antarctica. I would like to found a Kurdish colony in Antarctica.
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I will support establishing an independent British state in a depopulated Kurdistan, if establishing an independent British state in the British Isles is impossible. Eurosceptic nations ought to be allowed to settle in a depopulated Kurdistan.

Don't worry. Britain will leave the EU on January 31. 
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If the Antarctic ice melts, which would be an ecological disaster in excess of anything in recent geological history, what will be left behind is a harsh, rocky desert landscape subject to extreme weather conditions. Atttempting to establish a colony of several million people there is a fantastic concept, in the sense that it's a fantasy.
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Well, yes. Establishing a new Kurdistan on the Moon would be more difficult, but the difference would be one of degree not kind. Personally I think it possible that land in the sub-Arctic might open up to agriculture and colonisation if present warming trends continue, but that will be a long way in the future if it happens at all.
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Well, yes. Establishing a new Kurdistan on the Moon would be more difficult, but the difference would be one of degree not kind. Personally I think it possible that land in the sub-Arctic might open up to agriculture and colonisation if present warming trends continue, but that will be a long way in the future if it happens at all.

Antarctica is unlikely to be entirely deglaciated in my lifetime, but parts of Antarctica may be deglaciated in my lifetime. The Antarctic Peninsula will likely be deglaciated in my lifetime.
Comparing Antarctica to the Moon is wrong, because Antarctica doesn't lack water, unlike the Moon, and because sailing to Antarctica is possible. 
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And Antarctica has an atmosphere, albeit it will freeze your lungs at most seasons. However, while not as inaccessible as the Moon it is still exceedingly remote, and glaciated or not would remain exceedingly barren. I highly doubt that any substantial parts of the continent will be deglaciated in your lifetime, and if any are they still will not be amenable to settlement. I'd give up on this one if I were you, and leave the Kurds right where they are.
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And Antarctica has an atmosphere, albeit it will freeze your lungs at most seasons. However, while not as inaccessible as the Moon it is still exceedingly remote, and glaciated or not would remain exceedingly barren. I highly doubt that any substantial parts of the continent will be deglaciated in your lifetime, and if any are they still will not be amenable to settlement. I'd give up on this one if I were you, and leave the Kurds right where they are.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-future/exotic-climate-study-sees-refugees-in-antarctica-idUSTRE49B3V120081012

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Nice try, but the study, or rather extended piece of blue-sky thinking and wild speculation, is from 2008. Its predictions bear absolutely no resemblance to anything that has actually happened by 2020, and I presume even you aren't predicting flourishing Antarctic settlements by 2030, a mere ten years away now. Incidentally, have you considered the daylight problem, as in the lack thereof for much of the year? Along with the absence of soil and all kinds of other things considered useful for agriculture, as indeed sunlight is.
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Nice try, but the study, or rather extended piece of blue-sky thinking and wild speculation, is from 2008. Its predictions bear absolutely no resemblance to anything that has actually happened by 2020, and I presume even you aren't predicting flourishing Antarctic settlements by 2030, a mere ten years away now. Incidentally, have you considered the daylight problem, as in the lack thereof for much of the year? Along with the absence of soil and all kinds of other things considered useful for agriculture, as indeed sunlight is.

I'm proposing Kurdish colonization of the Antarctic Peninsula, not the South Pole. The daylight problem is no worse in the Antarctic Peninsula than in Iceland, because the Antarctic Peninsula is located close to the Antarctic Circle. 
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Ah yes, Iceland, that thriving hub of agriculture, the breadbasket of the North Atlantic. Not.
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Another slight issue is the lack of rain. I for one wouldn’t want to be outside melting ice in -60c to water crops that just darn well won’t grow! Maybe if we had some soil 🤔
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