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hubertgaston

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I read that Jonathan Swift, the creator of Gulliver, was a jacobite. Can someone confirm this information or give me details?

Thank you very much.
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Hubert, I honestly don't know, but I would be very surprised if he was. He was, of course, a clergyman in the Church of Ireland, traditionally much 'Lower' and anti-Catholic than the Church of England. I would be surprised if there were many Jacobites amongst its adherents. It is true that he was close to Viscount Bolingbroke who was a Jacobite in the '15, but later recanted. However, supporting the Tories at the time does not necessarily make a Jacobite.
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Not all Tories were Jacobites, but all Jacobites were Tories. The origin of the Tory and Whig movements, after all, dated back to the Cavaliers and Roundheads, and then later to the Exclusion Bill controversy where the Tories were the "abhorrers" who abhorred the Exclusion. Nonetheless, after 1690, Tories did serve in government although during the reigns of George I and George II, they were a permanent opposition party (in the period which covered the two Jacobite rebellions). The Tories from George III onwards were rather more reconciled to 1688-90 and compromise with certain Whig principles. Nonetheless the old and new Tory movements formed the basis for the Conservative Party, ideologically, until the 1970s.
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I see no evidence in Swift's life that he had Jacobite leanings. His excoriating satires made him many enemies, including in high places, even the highest; Queen Anne loathed him and never missed an opportunity to do him harm. I am sure that any hint of Jacobitism would have been seized on. I don't think though that he would have been personally anti-Catholic, or if he was then it is surprising that the Catholic Alexander Pope was his greatest and lifelong friend. Also his A Tale of a Tub satirises the Catholic church all right, but it equally satirises dissenters and the established church (and was the chief cause of Anne's ire).
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I don't think though that he would have been personally anti-Catholic, or if he was then it is surprising that the Catholic Alexander Pope was his greatest and lifelong friend.


Thank you, Peter. I had forgotten his friendship with Pope. I didn't mean to imply that he was personally anti-Catholic, just that membership in the CofI would tend to militate against the High Church and Catholic tendencies of Jacobitism.

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Thanks much for your answers.

So if I summarize: Swift was born in a royalist family, his own political views pushes him toward the Tories, he is friends with the Pope Catholic and jacobite Bolingbroke.

However no formal written does accredit the thesis according to which he could have had Jacobite sympathies?
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I looked into it a little further so as to be able to give a proper reply, and found this, refuting any suggestion of Swift being a Jacobite and showing from his writings that he entirely supported the Protestant Succession. I was momentarily baffled by male-adminsitration, then realised it was meant to be mal-administration (which nowadays is one word), as the full text of the essay referenced confirms.
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