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Wessexman

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Interesting. What do you intend to do to further the child's claim? I suggest a lightening raid on Dublin Port and moving up the Liffey from there. How many divisions can you raise?
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Interesting. What do you intend to do to further the child's claim? I suggest a lightening raid on Dublin Port and moving up the Liffey from there. How many divisions can you raise?

Irish monarchists ought to support the Liechtensteins instead of the Windsors. Ireland becoming a Commonwealth realm is unacceptable to the vast majority of the Irishmen, because Britain has oppressed the Irishmen. Support for a Jacobite restoration in Ireland is insignificant, but it isn't unacceptable to most Irishmen, unlike a Windsor restoration. Most Irishmen supported James II and VII. The Liechtensteins are Roman Catholics.
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Ah, asymmetric warfare is your plan. You plan to post far-fetched and bonkers ideas on every message board in Ireland until they beg for mercy?
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James II is indeed remembered fondly in Ireland. Séamus an Chaca is their affectionate nickname for him. Which I have to forbear from translating, the forum software wouldn't like it.
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Ah, asymmetric warfare is your plan. You plan to post far-fetched and bonkers ideas on every message board in Ireland until they beg for mercy?

I'm sick and tired of being accused of being a supporter of Irish republicanism, because I dislike Ulster Unionism. A person, who doesn't want Ireland to remain a republic, isn't a supporter of Irish republicanism. 
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Um, Wessexman made no such accusation. He didn't say anything remotely resembling such an accusation. I don't particularly remember anyone ever making it.
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Um, Wessexman made no such accusation. He didn't say anything remotely resembling such an accusation. I don't particularly remember anyone ever making it.

I have been accused of being a supporter of Irish republican terrorism in the past, because I prefer Sinn Fein to the DUP. I have never supported Irish republican terrorism. I'm opposed to Irish unification without the consent of the majority of the Ulstermen. Supporting Irish nationalism doesn't make me a supporter of Irish republicanism, because I support a Jacobite restoration in Ireland. Ireland will likely remain a republic, but I don't want Ireland to remain a republic.
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Sinn Féin has always been and still is a front organisation for Irish republican terror, continuing to be controlled by the IRA Army Council; albeit the terror campaign itself has long been in abeyance, and hopefully will remain so. I have never understood how anyone with a claim to be a decent person can support them for one moment. I find the DUP pretty dislikable myself, but I don't think they are quite the lowlifes Sinn Féin are. But as you wish. You should realise though that when you quote a person's post in full and loudly proclaim that you are 'sick and tired' of a certain accusation being made against you, the fact that the post in question contains no hint of such an accusation is going to introduce a certain amount of cognitive dissonance. Or to put it another way, doing this makes you look nuts.
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Sinn Féin has always been and still is a front organisation for Irish republican terror, continuing to be controlled by the IRA Army Council; albeit the terror campaign itself has long been in abeyance, and hopefully will remain so. I have never understood how anyone with a claim to be a decent person can support them for one moment. I find the DUP pretty dislikable myself, but I don't think they are quite the lowlifes Sinn Féin are. But as you wish. You should realise though that when you quote a person's post in full and loudly proclaim that you are 'sick and tired' of a certain accusation being made against you, the fact that the post in question contains no hint of such an accusation is going to introduce a certain amount of cognitive dissonance. Or to put it another way, doing this makes you look nuts.

I don't support Sinn Fein. I would vote for the Social Democratic and Labour Party, if I was a British or Irish citizen living in Northern Ireland. My dislike of Ulster Unionism isn't caused by Anglophobia. I dislike Ulster Unionism, because it's based on religious bigotry. The British government no longer oppresses the Ulster Catholics. 
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And yet you yourself have repeatedly expressed a sectarian hostility to Protestants.
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And yet you yourself have repeatedly expressed a sectarian hostility to Protestants.

I have never advocated persecution of Protestants. I'm a staunch supporter of freedom of religion. I have merely advocated the British monarch being allowed to convert to Catholicism or Orthodox Christianity. The Protestant churches are ecclesial communities rather than true churches according to Pope Benedict XVI. Benedict XVI is my favourite Pope. He is a staunch conservative, who supports friendly relations with the Eastern churches. I agree with Pope Benedict XVI on the Protestant churches.
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Oh boy, déjà vu all over again. I suppose we should be used to it by now, but it really does get wearisome.
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William III wanted the son of James II to be sent over to England to be trained as his successor , James II refused . Source "Mary of Modena " by Carola Oman , published by Hodder and Stoughton 1962 pages 171, 189.
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William III wanted the son of James II to be sent over to England to be trained as his successor , James II refused . Source "Mary of Modena " by Carola Oman , published by Hodder and Stoughton 1962 pages 171, 189.


Was that a selfish act or could James II not bear the thought that his son would be raised a Protestant? Or both? 
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I must say that we should all admire Azadi's bravery. Not many would have the courage to suggest being meanies is worse than being a terrorist front group. To declare such absurdities so boldly is impressive indeed.
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