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Murtagon

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Hello there!

InVinoVeritas, it is good to see someone new around here!

If I may ask, who do you support as ruler of a monarchical Finland? Or you think it should remain a republic, even though it has been a monarchy for most of its existence, AFAIK.


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Hello there!

InVinoVeritas, it is good to see someone new around here!

If I may ask, who do you support as ruler of a monarchical Finland? Or you think it should remain a republic, even though it has been a monarchy for most of its existence, AFAIK.




Well, I sadly don't know enough about all the possible candidates to form a balanced view on the subject, but I guess the most likely candidate in the current climate would be Mafalda von Hessen. And besides, I'm much more interested in the institution of monarchy than in individual monarchs, unless they're exceptionally good or bad.

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I'm Matthew, 19 years old and I'm a Unionist Scot who lives in both Ayrshire and Oxfordshire at different times of year.
My main monarchist projects are The Scottish Tory, a British politics and royalty opinions page, and Scots for a French Royal Restoration, an Orleanist-Fusioniste campaign in English.
Links to both are found in my signature.
Whilst I tend to say that I am a High Tory, this is a bit of a tricky label since it is quite anglocentric and I am neither Anglican nor Roman Catholic.
I am staunchly Reformed in my theology, High in my aesthetics, Baptist in my approach to sacraments and confused in church polity.
I was once a facebook friend of Royal Cello (Theodore) before my untimely zuccing, explained in a French Unionist article:https://frenchunionist.org/2019/10/12/an-anjouist-plot/
It was in trying to find Theodore's email that I ended up on this site.
I hope I can contribute well to the discussions here.

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Hi, I'm a 35-year-old Republican/Presidential Monarchist. I came across your post on "Female Monarchists" in the Monarchy forums here that talks about the rarity of female monarchists compared to mostly male monarchists in the U.S., which I thought was interesting because I'm a female monarchist.  

I'm not sure if I will fit in here in these Monarchy forums, because it looks like most of the monarchists here are supportive of hereditary/imperial/traditional or European-style monarchy, (which I certainly don't support) whereas my form of monarchism is American/Presidential, combines both republicanism and monarchist ideology, and my monarchist leanings are not based on Christian ideology.

Probably most of the people in this forum have never heard of republican monarchism and don't know what it even means. Some of my friends don't understand it because it's too much monarchism for the average American, but probably to most traditional Monarchists who believe in hereditary monarchy/Royalty, it has too much republicanism.

I manage a social media page which is about Republican Monarchism. 


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I must admit that the difference between republican monarchism and plain republicanism is not clear to me. Perhaps you could explain just what you see the difference as being? That aside, welcome.
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Welcome!

I wasn't sure if I would fit here either and yet I'm still here after two months (and a little).

It is good to see female monarchists, as they offer a different and vital point-of-view.

I hope you have a good time here, even if your views on the subject seem unorthodox at first glance!

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I must admit that the difference between republican monarchism and plain republicanism is not clear to me. Perhaps you could explain just what you see the difference as being? That aside, welcome.


The differences are this and are based on mainly the mixed republican monarchism ideology of John Adams as well as Alexander Hamilton and some of the other Founders:

Republican Monarchism has these features:
1. a Crown
3. a regal title--the repeal of Article 1, Section 9, Paragraph 8 of the U.S. Constitution
4. possibly adopting additional powers
5. repeal of the 22nd amendment so that he rules for life or for a much longer period
6. pledging allegiance to the President

Essentially, it means a Crowned Republic with a President who acts and serves as an elective King, or a Republic with distinctly monarchial features. But unlike a typical Crowned Republic, the President is not just a ceremonial figurehead--he exercises his original powers, but is formally acknowledged as an elective monarch. With no Prime Minister, the President is simply elevated as Constitutional King but always elected, not hereditary.

Some of the Founders supported the idea of the President ruling for life, which, if along with the repeal of Article 1, Section 9, Paragraph 8 of the U.S. Constitution and Crowning the President would create a Crowned Republic, or a republicanized Constitutional monarchy.

The Founders didn't require the President to rule for only 4-8 years, even though it's become Presidential tradition to honor George Washington. The 22nd Amendment was ratified in the 1950s. 

You might be surprised to know that the differences between limited monarchy and republicanism is not as clear-cut and defined by some of the Founders as many believe it is, especially when you realize that some of the Founders actually held both republican and monarchial ideas, which influenced the creation and functions/symbols of the Presidency.

John Adams described the American Republic as being a "monarchical republic" which means that some of the Founders believed that there are overlaps between a so-called "pure Republic" and monarchy, and that a republic has the potential for evolving into a more monarchical system. 



 




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OK, thanks. Elective monarchy, basically. While it is true that the majority here supports hereditary monarchy, whether constitutional (my own preference) or absolute, I don't think anyone regards elective monarchy as per se illegitimate, especially with the historical examples of the Holy Roman Empire and the Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth before us. Not to mention the contemporary example of the Kingdom of Malaysia, though that is really more rota than election. As for Christian ideology, which you also mention as a concern, most here are Christians of one sort or another but not all, including myself as a convinced atheist and humanist as well as monarchist. I hope you will find the forum comfortable for you and will continue to contribute.
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My name is Mordecai son of Yom Tov and Simcha. I am a Levite first born son of first born. My father was US Foreign Service Officer. I founded a village in Judea (overlooking Ayn Gedi, Jerusalem, Hebron, most of the Dead Sea), yes we have Ayn Gedi vineyards. I am a follower of Rabbi Nachman returned in the flesh and born out of a well in Tiberias over a hundred years ago. My mission in life is to bring the remains of Rabbi Nachman to Jerusalem, from Uman, Ukraine. My village is named after the 6th book of Moses (yes there is one) and I promote the letter that Moses received at Mt Sinai with the tablets and that was penned by Rabbi Nachman enabling Nelson to defeat Napoleon on the dye of the Battle of Trafalgar. Separation of Church and State is a good thing but the King needs to accept Josef for his religious advisors to qualify a priests and not Magicians. Religious leaders must never reject the five Books of Moses, doing so makes their religious studies invalid. The tree of knowledge without the tree of life is useless. We should all strive to live 70 productive years like King David, the same way Moses lived exactly 120 years as Gd had decreed. Kings must step down at age 70! Only to answer questions IF ASKED.
I possess the secret to always being happy and this is also the key to overcoming the rebellious angel of Babylon (He is at War against us).

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