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British Isles - small.png
(Flags for "The Irish", "The Scots" and "England and Wales" are my own creation but their origins should be obvious)

Chart by myself, Hi-res found at:
https://imgur.com/ipgInuQ

There would be a Parliament for the United Kingdom in London.
There would be a Parliament for Great Britain in York
There would be a Parliament for Ireland in Dublin
Scotland, England, Wales, "England and Wales" and the Irish provinces would have offices rather than parliaments.

The Queen of Ireland, Scots and England would continue to be the same person and the Prince of Wales would continue to be the heir apparent.

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British Isles - small.png
(Flags for "The Irish", "The Scots" and "England and Wales" are my own creation but their origins should be obvious)

Chart by myself, Hi-res found at:
https://imgur.com/ipgInuQ

There would be a Parliament for the United Kingdom in London.
There would be a Parliament for Great Britain in York
There would be a Parliament for Ireland in Dublin
Scotland, England, Wales, "England and Wales" and the Irish provinces would have offices rather than parliaments.

The Queen of Ireland, Scots and England would continue to be the same person and the Prince of Wales would continue to be the heir apparent.

Ask me anything



I support Great Britain becoming a federal monarchy. An English Parliament ought to be established, and the British Parliament ought to be replaced with a unicameral Federal Assembly. The members of the Federal Assembly shall be elected by the English Parliament, the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh National Assembly and the Stormont. The English Parliament shall be unicameral and the members of the English Parliament shall be elected according to the first-past-the-post principle. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland shall share the monarch, the armed forces, foreign relations and the pound. The Federal Assembly shall be allowed to suspend the home rule of Northern Ireland in order to prevent discrimination of Ulster Catholics. 
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I support Great Britain becoming a federal monarchy. An English Parliament ought to be established, and the British Parliament ought to be replaced with a unicameral Federal Assembly. The members of the Federal Assembly shall be elected by the English Parliament, the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh National Assembly and the Stormont. The English Parliament shall be unicameral and the members of the English Parliament shall be elected according to the first-past-the-post principle. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland shall share the monarch, the armed forces, foreign relations and the pound. The Federal Assembly shall be allowed to suspend the home rule of Northern Ireland in order to prevent discrimination of Ulster Catholics. 

I'm afraid to say that I can't agree.
Federalism would undermine the nature of our union and unicameralism would be a betrayal of the British nobility.
I believe in the triune style of British rule, where Commons, Lords and Monarch form the Crown in Parliament.
There is at present next to no demand for an English parliament anyway.
"Northern Ireland" ideally shouldn't exist, there should be a United British Ireland.

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I'm afraid to say that I can't agree.
Federalism would undermine the nature of our union and unicameralism would be a betrayal of the British nobility.
I believe in the triune style of British rule, where Commons, Lords and Monarch form the Crown in Parliament.
There is at present next to no demand for an English parliament anyway.
"Northern Ireland" ideally shouldn't exist, there should be a United British Ireland.

I'm a Kurd, who is actually descended from German nobility. But hereditary membership of a legislative assembly is an anachronism, which has no place in the 21th century. Great Britain ought to emulate the Federal Republic of Germany, which bans privileges of nobility, but recognizes titles of nobility as part of the legal name. 
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I'm a Kurd, who is actually descended from German nobility. But hereditary membership of a legislative assembly is an anachronism, which has no place in the 21th century. Great Britain ought to emulate the Federal Republic of Germany, which bans privileges of nobility, but recognizes titles of nobility as part of the legal name. 

If the highest chamber, the crown, is to be held by hereditary right, why not the middle chamber, the lords?
The arguments against hereditary lords would be just as valid/invalid against hereditary thrones.

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If the highest chamber, the crown, is to be held by hereditary right, why not the middle chamber, the lords?
The arguments against hereditary lords would be just as valid/invalid against hereditary thrones.

I support hereditary constitutional monarchy, because a hereditary monarch is a non-partisan head of state, which embodies the history and traditions of the nation. But the legislative assembly ought to be fully democratically elected. I support sovereignty being shared between the king and the people. The legislative assembly must represent the people. All current hereditary monarchies of Europe have fully democratically elected legislative assemblies, except Great Britain. But Great Britain ought to keep the peerage as honorary titles.
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I support hereditary constitutional monarchy, because a hereditary monarch is a non-partisan head of state, which embodies the history and traditions of the nation. But the legislative assembly ought to be fully democratically elected. I support sovereignty being shared between the king and the people. The legislative assembly must represent the people. All current hereditary monarchies of Europe have fully democratically elected legislative assemblies, except Great Britain. But Great Britain ought to keep the peerage as honorary titles.

And why not have a non-partisan house?

I'm all for forbidding political affiliation for the peerage. 


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I'm a social democrat, who supports hereditary figurehead monarchies. The king is an unifying national symbol, while hereditary members of the legislative assembly only symbolizes inequality.
I want Great Britain to become a crowned version of the Federal Republic of Germany. The Federal Republic of Germany is a welfare state with tuition-free university education, and the CDU (the conservative party of Germany) and the SPD (the social democratic party of Germany) currently shares power in the German government. Federal Republic of Germany recognizes titles of nobility as part of the legal name, while denying the nobility any special privileges. Nobles and commoners ought to be equal before the law in Great Britain, as they are in the Federal Republic of Germany.
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I am a High Tory.
I believe in effective power being held by the people, the nobles and the crown.
An empty title is hardly better than no titles at all.
I believe in the noblesse oblige.
I see no reason for hereditary power to be any less legitimate than hereditary financial inheritance. 


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I am a High Tory.
I believe in effective power being held by the people, the nobles and the crown.
An empty title is hardly better than no titles at all.
I believe in the noblesse oblige.
I see no reason for hereditary power to be any less legitimate than hereditary financial inheritance. 


What's a High Tory?
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What's a High Tory?

That's a good question.
The exact meaning has changed over time.
Originally it referred to conservative English nobility, many of whom had strong Jacobite leanings.
Nowadays it tends to just mean a traditionalist social conservative of the British tradition.

Modern High Toryism is represented by the writings of Sir Roger Scruton, though he has a pronounced English nationalist streak, whilst most High Tories support the Union.

High Tories are made distinct from other conservatives by the religious nature of their politics and the incorporation of pre-enlightenment thought into their worldviews.

High Toryism is represented by the Cornerstone Group, a faction of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

Jacob Rees-Mogg is often said to be a High Tory but he also has strong Thatcherite influence.

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Here is an interesting article about Scottish independence:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/scottish-independence-nicola-sturgeon-snp-indyref2-second-referendum-independent-look-like-a7641671.html
I'm opposed to Scottish independence, because Scotland and England share a lot of cultural heritage, because Scotland has never been oppressed by England unlike Ireland and because I fear Scottish independence will lead to Scotland becoming a republic.
I'm opposed to Ulster unionism, but I'm opposed to Irish unification without the consent of the majority of the Ulstermen. 
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I'm opposed to both Scottish and Irish independence from the United Kingdom. The British Isles must be united under a common crown and union. The only hope for either side of Ireland is for a new British Irishness to develop balancing the rich cultural tradition of Hibernia with the political realities developed by England.

I would only ever support Scottish independence if the rest of the UK were to form a republic but Scotland would keep the Crown. Ireland.png 


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I'm opposed to both Scottish and Irish independence from the United Kingdom. The British Isles must be united under a common crown and union. The only hope for either side of Ireland is for a new British Irishness to develop balancing the rich cultural tradition of Hibernia with the political realities developed by England.

I would only ever support Scottish independence if the rest of the UK were to form a republic but Scotland would keep the Crown. Ireland.png 

I agree, that Ireland ought to have remained part of the UK, because the peoples of the British Isles share a lot of cultural heritage. Irish home rule ought to have been introduced in the 1880's. If Irish home rule had been introduced in the 1880's, Ireland would probably have remained part of the UK. But Ireland rejoining the UK is extremely unlikely to happen today. I'm opposed to Ulster Unionism, because it is founded on religious sectarianism. I despise Ian Paisley, because he was bigoted towards Catholics.
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Perhaps it would have done.
Alas that is true.
I support Ulster Unionism but not its radical, violent or bigoted aspects.
Ian Paisley calmed down a lot over the years but even at his peak, I have respect for him, since he honestly believed himself to be tackling the forces of the antichrist.
Additionally he raised legitimate concerns about England's dismissal of the importance of the Union.

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