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I'm a liberal Catholic monarchist and unfailingly a realist. I like the idea of monarchy as an institution and think that it has served the countries it's in pretty nicely - especially over the last pair of centuries, before which I'm a lot more mixed on the idea. Not a fan of the idea of an "American monarchy" or anything like that, and while I think republics are often constitutionally unstable and usually soulless I think certain republics - France and the U.S. come to mind - are fine. I guess I prefer a strong president model to an appointed president or a "popularity contest" president since I hate useless institutions. Anyway.

Totally against colonialism - cultural, linguistic, and political - and xenophobia, racism and misogyny. The reason I'm here, and one of my big interests at the moment, is that I'd really like to see the institution of (constitutional) monarchy preserved, defended, and spread throughout the 21st century - where the people want it, and it'd be nice to talk to some people about that. I'm just the kind of person who gets inexplicably happy when they read that there's an autonomous sultanate stuck inside of Indonesia.

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Welcome.  While I'm a fairly conservative Anglican monarchist myself I largely agree, except regarding France, the restoration of whose monarchy I continue to advocate in principle no matter how unrealistic that seems at present.
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Yeah, I just feel like the restoration of the French monarchy's window of opportunity has long since passed - the Dreyfus affair was the last serious chance of a restoration and Charles de Gaulle's presidency was the last "outside bet". The Fifth (yeesh) French Republic has a lot more color to it than the "Republic of Austria", at least. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer or whatever - restorations are next to impossible in the vast majority of countries anyway. Not that it particularly matters, since I'm not French and have about as much right to designate their government as I do a right to declare the Cisalpine Republic.

Right now I'm hoping for Montenegro, with Romania, Libya and Serbia outside bets. I think all other restorations are very unlikely at this stage but that could easily change - if the Georgian heir of the two dynasties winds up being super charismatic eighteen years from now or something, for instance. I was very frustrated with Afghanistan in general, since I think a source of legitimacy would've avoided many of the problems they have right now - Jeffersonian democracy does not legitimacy make, especially not when forced on you by a foreign power. It doesn't help that while when you ask people "do you support a monarchy?" in these countries many will say yes, they're unlikely to make a big issue of it.

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I don't disagree regarding likelihood...that's why to be honest I can get sort of depressed about the whole thing, without being willing to change or moderate my views.  But there's a difference between saying, "I don't expect to see the French Monarchy restored" and "the French Republic is fine."  It will never be "fine" for me, and I've never been shy about expressing my opinion just because I'm not French. There are, after all, still royalists in France, many of them young, with websites and newsletters and marches and activities and everything, so why should we not feel solidarity with them even if they're a marginalized minority?
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Yeah, there's definitely a danger of "republican creep", and I mean this around the world - politicians in Australia and New Zealand, even those who call themselves monarchists, say things like "a republic is inevitable" even though it honestly isn't. Hopefully I'm not giving you cause to think I'm one of those people.

As for France, it's a much, much, much better model than any of the republics that've come before it. I'm actually very willing to change and moderate (or... extremate?) my views - which is why I'm a monarchist in the first place, actually. While I can obviously empathize with monarchists in France, and elsewhere, I can't say that I'm particularly upset by the current republic in France. It's a product of its history, rather than a weird anachronism forced on it by a foreign power - see Hungary (whose story gets me so frustrated it's unbelievable), most of the Balkans, etc.

EDIT: But then, obviously, the question becomes "what about Russia? Was the Soviet Union "fine" because it was a product of its history? What about Nazi Germany, etc." France isn't Nazi Germany, though, and republicanism almost seems thoroughly ingrained in the French spirit now, in essence. I really, really, really do regret the loss of the monarchy - that is to say, the constitutional July Monarchy - but when the public idolizes the French Revolution and holds it up on a pedestal (when it really doesn't belong there, most of the revolutionaries were major jerks) I can't really help but be like "welp".

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Welcome, and congratulations on starting the 100th thread in the Guidelines, Announcements, and Introductions section of the forum!
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Welcome.

France needs a King. 

When France had a King, their reputation was not one of 'we surrender'.


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