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Yes, this forum has virtually every kind of "Diversity" except one: gender.  I never intended for it to be a "gentleman's club," but somehow that's what happened.  We have had female members, but they never seem to stay active for long.


At the risk of seeming misogynistic, I wonder if it's that the fairer sex is more interested in the gowns, tiaras and weddings than they are in discussions of history, genealogy and monarchist political philosophy? There are plenty of fora for the former, few for the latter.

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Tea at Trianon is a great blog by a woman that often goes beyond "gowns, tiaras and weddings," as is American Monarchist, but in general you may have a point there.

[edited to add: The Cross of Laeken and the now-defunct The Sword & The Sea, both by another female monarchist]
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I was on another list that was ostensibly for the discussion of Leo Strauss, but covered the whole extent of political philosophy - from Plato to Heidegger. The arguments were sometimes fierce. One thing noted was that women very rarely engaged - maybe once every other year. It was a men's club.
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Well, that's less surprising.  I would think a monarchist forum (which after all can include the "glamorous" aspects of monarchy; it's not like that's prohibited here) would appeal to women more than a Leo Strauss forum.

I expect to meet some female Tudor history enthusiasts on the Executed Queens Tour in June; perhaps I'll be able to convince one or more of them to join...
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Well Leo Strauss isn't quite cars and trucks, but I take your point. I went over to the Fish Eaters site before only because it's been mentioned here by you and others. It seems that women are a large contingent there, no? Maybe that's true for other conservative Catholic sites. So what do you think is the difference between that and this site?
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A traditional Catholic forum offers plenty of opportunities to talk about home and family life which wouldn't really come up on a monarchist forum.  I'm sure that's a factor in the difference.  It didn't always work well though.  I know that some male trad Catholics resented what they saw as the quasi-feminist views of many female members of Fisheaters, resulting in splinter forums.

I think with most traditionalist Catholic women in particular, when it comes to Monarchy there's a dilemma that a [married] male trad Catholic monarchist friend of mine (a member here, though we haven't heard from him recently) agreed exists, namely that they are simultaneously too socially conservative to be captivated by the lives of glamorous contemporary royals that might entrance more liberal women but don't meet trad Catholic standards, AND too "practical" (in a feminine way) to be interested in ideology or political theory.  Whether Portugal has a king or a president isn't likely to affect one's ability to homeschool one's seven children in Kansas, and William & Catherine are Protestant heretics who lived together in sin before marriage so the royal wedding was nothing to get excited about...  (sigh)

As for other potentially monarchist women, the sort who did get excited about the royal wedding, I'm a little more mystified as to why we can't attract them.

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Well I remember having a fruitless exchange with the young lady from Arizona earlier in the year, even though I agreed with some of her points. It seems that she didn't want to be challenged.
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Tea at Trianon is a great blog by a woman that often goes beyond "gowns, tiaras and weddings," as is American Monarchist, but in general you may have a point there.

[edited to add: The Cross of Laeken and the now-defunct The Sword & The Sea, both by another female monarchist]


I'll have to check the others, since I'm unfamiliar with them, but I sincerely hope the authoress of Tea at Trianon doesn't read this forum! I might get a reproving email since I read it and have occasionally commented and corresponded with its originator and completely forgot about it.

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'Monarchy can easily be ‘debunked;' but watch the faces, mark the accents of the debunkers. These are the men whose tap-root in Eden has been cut: whom no rumour of the polyphony, the dance, can reach - men to whom pebbles laid in a row are more beautiful than an arch. Yet even if they desire equality, they cannot reach it. Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.' C.S. Lewis God save Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, etc.! Vive le Très haut, très puissant et très excellent Prince, Louis XX, Par la grâce de Dieu, Roi de France et de Navarre, Roi Très-chrétien!
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