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Martyrdom1649

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was Frederick II of Prussia a mason, on wikipedia it saids yes, is this true?
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Yes, Frederick the Great was a freemason, he was also very liberal for his times and an atheist as well. Freemason monarchs and overall freemasons are perceived to be on the liberal and progressive side of the modern political map, and of course are tied to many conspiracies. He is not the only freemason monarch in history but certainly most prominent example I believe, as George VI of Great Britain, another example of prominent freemason monarch was, the liberal Emperor, the father of Wilhelm II of Germany who loathed Freemasonry, Friedrich III, was also a freemason and not only that but head of the order in Germany as well. On the other hand you got Carol II of Romania who was quite an exception of being a conservative and absolute (perhaps out of convenience because of the conservative nature of things in Romania back then) and a freemason monarch. Even the known nazi-sympathizer, Edward VIII was a freemason. But yet, far more liberal monarchs of their time were freemasons, some of them even proud. Even in the Islamic world, Hussein of Jordan, Murad V of the Ottoman Empire who I believe introduced liberal reforms and parliament, most Egyptian monarchs like Fuad and Farouk, etc. In Russia there is Alexander I (not II interestingly) who was during the Napoleonic times the only known Russian monarch to be a freemason, some say Catherine was but I think that's unconfirmed.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_who_were_Freemasons#Holy_Roman_Empire

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Thanks, I asked this question out of curiosity, I am against freemasons, however, I am a fan of Prussia.
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Some time ago, I made a poll on a Facebook monarchist group to see what the general consensus about monarchs and royalty being freemasons was. I remember it was largely negative, although there was one guy who argued that Freemasonry is deprecated, because most people didn't understand it. Oh, very well.

In my country, the Lodges had been shut down during Socialism, but I think they function once more nowadays. A rich man is more likely to be a member of the Rotary Club, though.
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Thanks for all the information
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A minor correction to MonarchistKaiser's post- Frederick II was a deist, not an atheist. He explained his views on the matter in a letter to his sister Princess Amalie:

"I feel the deepest veneration for the divine being, and therefore I am careful not to attribute to him unjust, fickle behavior, which would be condemned by the meanest mortal. Because of that, dear sister, I prefer not to believe that the almighty, benevolent being is at all concerned with human affairs. Rather I do attribute everything that happens to the living beings and certain effects of incalculable causes and I silently bow down before this being which is worthy of adoration, by admitting my ignorance concerning his ways, which his godly wisdom chose not to reveal."

I don't know if this is true of continental freemasonry, which has its own traditions, but in English freemasonry atheists are not actually permitted to join; professing belief in a supreme being is a condition of membership.

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Thanks, I wonder how he became a deist, since his father is a Reformed/ Calvinist as it saids on wikipedia
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He possessed an enquiring, sceptical turn of mind and formed his own opinions. There was very little indeed that Frederick did that was like his father, whom for good reason he heartily detested.
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