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Tomorrow, June 19, marks the 140th anniversary of the murder of the well-meaning but tragic Emperor Maximilian of Mexico by revolutionaries.

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Tomorrow, June 19, marks the 140th anniversary of the murder of the well-meaning but tragic Emperor Maximilian of Mexico by revolutionaries.

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http://www.casaimperial.org/

 
Thanks for the information and the link.I read the Book, Maximilian the last Emperor of Mexico by Robert Massie.A great Biography of a great human being and a great Emperor.He was a very honorable open-minded reasonable and liberal Monarch.He was betrayed by most except for a few faithful.It was wrong for the President of the U.S.A. to intefere and support the opposite party who were uncivilised barbarians or else they would not have executed a great man who would stand up and hold his ground till the end.He thought that his enemy would be magnanimous as he was, for he admired and respected him but it was not to be so.He came from  a glorious and honorable Habsburg Family and Dynasty and his enemy from a mean and revengful background who did not know to be just and merciful.His was a great romantic and tragic story and the people of Mexico loved him from the begining.He only thought of their good and prosperity.He was a just man.Napoleon III did wrong to withdraw the French Troops and he betrayed Maximilian.He was the one to support him and put him on the Throne.If Emperor Maximilian had stayed on the Throne, with His lovely but equally tragic wife Empress Charlotte the Daughter of King Leopold I of Belgium and grand daughter of King Louis Philippe the last reigning King of France,the History of Mexico would have been different and there would have been no civil wars and revolutions.Eternal Memory and Praise and Glory to Him!
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Maximilian was to me the last hope for the 100%Spanish descendants of the colonists .  The natives retaliated to Spanish rule by raping and killing the Spaniards left after Mexican independence.  Read the last quote of Maximilian as he stood before the firing squad.  He only wished to save his people from tyranny and terror.

Since he was a great Habsburg, I think what he was referring to by "His People" was dating back before 1700.  When all Spanish land was Habsburg land.  Maximilian chose to be appointed Emperor of Mexico to protect what he still believed to be "His People". 

I don't accept what happened after the war of Spanish Succession.  Maximilian didn't believe it either.  He died like a real Habsburg, Albert, his ancestor, would be proud of his courage.

No monarchist should celebrate Cinco de Mayo.  Its purpose was originally meant to celebrate the end of Maximilian's regime.           

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Hello Monarchists of Europe and English speaking countries. We are not dead. We are just hidden from the lies of those murderers of our beloved emperor.

Viva el Emperador!!!!!!!
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I should add we are hidden while we gather and change things if possible avoiding violence and by convincing one by one of the Mexicans that they have been reading only lies in their history books.

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Its time for the Mexicans to turn back the lies of the Republican Government
                                
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In response of one of the posts in this subject.

HIM Maximiliano de Habsburgo was not only the Emperor of Spaniards one of his Generals that was shot in his UNFAIR excecution was a Mexican Native with loyalty and pride for his emperor. And many other mestizos, criollos and indigenous people loved him. The greedy republicans wanted power at all means selling the country to obtain weapons and troops to the USA. Please take a look at the links bellow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_Mej%C3%ADa

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_Mej%C3%ADa

Dios salve al emperador

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Thats sad,a Man who died besides his emperor
Every day,i hate republicanism more and more


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Maximilian was to me the last hope for the 100%Spanish descendants of the colonists .  The natives retaliated to Spanish rule by raping and killing the Spaniards left after Mexican independence.  Read the last quote of Maximilian as he stood before the firing squad.  He only wished to save his people from tyranny and terror.


He was probably reffering to the Mexican people as "his people" because he was their king, probably not because of his views on how the war of spanish succession should have turned out.

The natives (or more native blood) only killed Spaniards becauses after the treasonous act of breaking away because the new mexican elites started to treat the natives harshly and cruelly. The Spanish crown was always friendly towards the natives of the land and had a much better record in dealing with native Americans then the English did(infact the spanish's record was near spotless in comparison to UK/USA).


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I think you will find there were many spots on the Spanish conquest of the Americas, Clark. Unless you don't count war, conquest, pillage, enslavement, kidnapping, torture and murder as spots. They didn't go there in peace to bring the Gospel, they went there in arms to conquer all the land and all its people and goods. The numerous Indian tribes of the Caribbean, the first to encounter the Spaniards, have long been literally extinct except for one handful of one tribe, so benevolently were they treated. As late as the 19th century the Argentine government, heirs of Spain, were carrying out a declared policy of genocide against the Indians of the interior and south (they finished the job).

I'm not crying shame on Spain, just suggesting that it is not possible to hold Spanish colonialism up as a shining example against that of England/Britain and the US.
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I think you will find there were many spots on the Spanish conquest of the Americas, Clark. Unless you don't count war, conquest, pillage, enslavement, kidnapping, torture and murder as spots. They didn't go there in peace to bring the Gospel, they went there in arms to conquer all the land and all its people and goods. The numerous Indian tribes of the Caribbean, the first to encounter the Spaniards, have long been literally extinct except for one handful of one tribe, so benevolently were they treated. As late as the 19th century the Argentine government, heirs of Spain, were carrying out a declared policy of genocide against the Indians of the interior and south (they finished the job).

I'm not crying shame on Spain, just suggesting that it is not possible to hold Spanish colonialism up as a shining example against that of England/Britain and the US.

Spanish colonialism (mexico at least) was indeed far far more tolerant of the people. Hence why spaniards bred with the natives, as opposed to in English lands where the majority of settlers did not intermingle with the native populations. Also the first unniversity founded with in the North American continent was in Mexico city to educate natives. Most deaths occured due to abuses on the parts of individuals or to diesease.

Really the french were the shinning example of colonial treatment of natives though. Spanish were just better then english(which I will agree is not saying too much).


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Spanish colonialism (mexico at least) was indeed far far more tolerant of the people. Hence why spaniards bred with the natives, as opposed to in English lands where the majority of settlers did not intermingle with the native populations.

Hmmm, let's see what Otis Blackwell had to say:

Captain Smith and Pocahontas
Had a very mad affair
When her daddy tried to kill him
She said "Daddy oh don't you dare"
"He gives me fever with his kisses"
"Fever when he holds me tight"
"Fever, I'm his missus"
"Daddy won't you treat him right?"

 All nonsense, of course, but Pocahontas did indeed marry a settler, though not Captain Smith, and has numerous descendants today, including Nancy Reagan. A lot of the American people I know claim American Indian descent as a thread in their ancestry. All I'm saying is that intermarriage did happen, though perhaps not as commonly as in the Spanish-dominated areas. Then again, the North American Indians were a lot thinner on the ground in the first place, and did not so commonly live in settled societies, both of which would have lessened the chances of intermarriage.

North America, it is believed, had been far more populous, and certainly had had extensive settled societies, but neither was the case by the time whites really began to penetrate the continent. Theories differ as to why, but most commonly it is believed that European diseases spreading from the south and the coasts devastated the population in advance of the arrival of the white men themselves.
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KUCOOLKAN you are right.I read the Book The Crown of Mexico by.. Massey and it is a great Biography about Em.Maximilian and Em. Carlotta or Charlotte of Mexico.And all you say I remember it is there.Can you explain your Avatar?I like to know the symbolism and the story of Avatars.Please and Thanks.
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If you're doing a 'rank them' thing, the US is certainly worse than the UK/Canadian group, and yes the French would be hard to beat - but they didn't really come to stay, now did they?

The 'intent' of the French was 'trade with native materials', of Spanish 'export of gold, import of Christianity', of the English 'a place to put the malcontents', of the Americans to spread their 'republic', it was these difference in reasons for being in the Americas that drove the differences in relationships.


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George7 KUCOOLKAN you are right.I read the Book The Crown of Mexico by.. Massey and it is a great Biography about Em.Maximilian and Em. Carlotta or Charlotte of Mexico.And all you say I remember it is there.Can you explain your Avatar?I like to know the symbolism and the story of Avatars.Please and Thanks.

My avatar is the The Coat of Arms of the II Mexican Empire is oval in shape in blue; in the center is depicted the eagle of Anahuac, in profile and passant, supported by a cactus, suported, in turn, by a rock sunk on water, and ripping a snake. The border is gold charged by a garland of encina and laurel. The crest it the Imperial Crown. As supporters, two griffin from our olders' arms, their upper hald in black and the lower in gold; behind the scepter and sword in saltire. The shield is surrounded by the collar of the Order of the "Águila Mexicana", and the motto: "Equidad en la Justicia" (Equity on Justice)

The Imperial standard of archduke Maximilian of Austria, emperor of Mexico from 1863 to 1867. The grand arms in the middle are like those of imperial France. Which is no coincidence. Emperor Napoleon III introduced Mexicans who looked for a European prince to Maximillian and sponsored the Mexican Empire. Maximillian and his wife the Belgian princess Charlotte, were able and modern administrators. Unfortunately the ignorance of many Mexicans and the lies of the republicans (financed by the US) didn't recognise this. Maximillian was overthrown and murdered in 1867. Mexico fell back in lethargy, banditism and corruption. (Source: The arms: Siebmachers Wappenbuch; flag: painting of Maximillians departure from Miramar at the Adriatic).

Once Again Thank You all for your support and interest in the Mexican Empire.

Viva el Emperador y Dios lo tenga en su Gloria!!!!!!!

 
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