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Evo Morales, the indigenous socialist President of Bolivia, has recently been deposed by a right-wing military coup.
I have been a strong supporter of the Pink Tide of Latin America, and I admire Hugo Chavez and Lula. I'm a traditional social democrat, who is strongly opposed to neoliberalism, and I support nationalization of strategic sectors of the economy, including public utilities, oil, natural gas, mining and banks. I used to admire Evo Morales, whose government has reduced poverty immensely, which has nationalized natural gas and lithium and which has adopted a new constitution, which recognizes the rights of the indigenous peoples of Bolivia.
But Evo Morales has moved away from democracy in recent years. He was an impeccable democrat during the first years of his rule, but he began to move away from democracy, after the majority of the Bolivians rejected abolishing presidential term limits in a constitutional referendum in 2016. The Supreme Tribunal of Justice of Bolivia abolished presidential term limits in 2017. According to OAS, Evo Morales was re-elected on October 20 due to electoral fraud.
But the right-wing coup against Evo Morales is unacceptable, despite Evo Morales being re-elected due to electoral fraud, because Evo Morales was willing to call a new presidential election after OAS discovered electoral fraud in the presidential election on October 20.
The right-wing opponents of Evo Morales is currently burning the Wiphala, the indigenous flag of Bolivia. That's unacceptable.
Evo Morales has overstayed his welcome, but I want another member of MAS (the socialist party of Evo Morales) to be elected President of Bolivia.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/13/morales-bolivia-military-coup




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The Bolivian police prevents senators, who belong to MAS, the socialist party of Evo Morales, from entering the Senate. Bolivian democracy must be defended against the right-wing coup.
Jeanine Añez, the interim President of Bolivia, is a far-right Christian, who claims, that indigenous Andean religion is satanic. Evo Morales supports indigenous Andean religion, and indigenous Andean religion has been revived during the presidency of Evo Morales. I'm not opposed to indigenous Bolivians voluntarily converting from Christianity to indigenous Andean religion, despite being a Christian myself. The Spanish colonial regime forced indigenous Andeans to converting to Christianity. Forced conversion to Christianity is unacceptable. Zoroastrianism is currently being revived in Kurdistan, and the Abbasid Caliphate persecuted Zoroastrians.
Long live Tawantinsuyu (the Inca Empire)! Long live the Sassanid Persian Empire!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/13/jeanine-anez-bolivia-president-promises-new-elections

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I'm not highly enthusiastic about either of the sides. Latin America needs a conservative revolution that is genuinely both, conservative and revolutionary. Brazil's Estado Novo is a good example. Cuba under Ramón Grau and Carlos Prío Socarrás comes close. But this time, I think I'm gonna side with the right.
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I'm not highly enthusiastic about either of the sides. Latin America needs a conservative revolution that is genuinely both, conservative and revolutionary. Brazil's Estado Novo is a good example. Cuba under Ramón Grau and Carlos Prío Socarrás comes close. But this time, I think I'm gonna side with the right.

Even if you are a conservative, you ought to condemn the Wiphala, the indigenous flag of Bolivia, being burned by conservatives. 
Evo Morales isn't a Communist. His government has nationalizes some sectors of the economy, but it hasn't attempted to eliminate private enterprise and he doesn't support state atheism. But I don't support Evo Morales becoming President of Bolivia again, because his government committed electoral fraud in the presidential election on October 20, and the majority of the Bolivians voted against abolishing presidential term limits in a constitutional referendum in 2016. Evo Morales ought to respect the verdict of the people. I want another member of MAS, the socialist party of Evo Morales, to become President of Bolivia.
I'm a socialist, but I'm not a Communist. I'm a traditional social democrat, but I prefer calling myself a socialist, because I dislike Blair-style social democracy. The ruling party of Spain, which is a social democratic party, is called the Spanish Socialist Worker's Party. I'm a reformist socialist, not a revolutionary socialist. I reject Communism, because I'm opposed to utopianism and totalitarianism. I support figurehead hereditary monarchies, despite being a socialist. George Orwell wrote a book called "The Lion and the Unicorn", which describes a democratic socialist revolution in England, which retains the British monarchy as a unifying national symbol. Orwell was a democratic socialist, who was opposed to Soviet totalitarianism.
Indigenous Andean religion is to Bolivia, what Zoroastrianism is to Kurdistan. Despite being a Nestorian Christian, I support the revival of Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan, because Zoroastrianism was the predominant religion in Kurdistan before the Arab Caliphates conquered Kurdistan, and I personally prefer Zoroastrianism to Islam, because Zoroastrianism doesn't condone violence, unlike the Quran. Jesus, Zarathustra and Buddha were men of peace, while Muhammad was a warlord. Islamism wouldn't exist, if the Quran didn't condone violence. But I'm strongly opposed to Islamophobia, because many Muslims are decent and tolerant people. 
https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/020620153



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Even if you are a conservative, you ought to condemn the Wiphala, the indigenous flag of Bolivia, being burned by conservatives. 
Evo Morales isn't a Communist. His government has nationalizes some sectors of the economy, but it hasn't attempted to eliminate private enterprise and he doesn't support state atheism. But I don't support Evo Morales becoming President of Bolivia again, because his government committed electoral fraud in the presidential election on October 20, and the majority of the Bolivians voted against abolishing presidential term limits in a constitutional referendum in 2016. Evo Morales ought to respect the verdict of the people. I want another member of MAS, the socialist party of Evo Morales, to become President of Bolivia.
I'm a socialist, but I'm not a Communist. I'm a traditional social democrat, but I prefer calling myself a socialist, because I dislike Blair-style social democracy. The ruling party of Spain, which is a social democratic party, is called the Spanish Socialist Worker's Party. I'm a reformist socialist, not a revolutionary socialist. I reject Communism, because I'm opposed to utopianism and totalitarianism. I support figurehead hereditary monarchies, despite being a socialist. George Orwell wrote a book called "The Lion and the Unicorn", which describes a democratic socialist revolution in England, which retains the British monarchy as a unifying national symbol. Orwell was a democratic socialist, who was opposed to Soviet totalitarianism.
Indigenous Andean religion is to Bolivia, what Zoroastrianism is to Kurdistan. Despite being a Nestorian Christian, I support the revival of Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan, because Zoroastrianism was the predominant religion in Kurdistan before the Arab Caliphates conquered Kurdistan, and I personally prefer Zoroastrianism to Islam, because Zoroastrianism doesn't condone violence, unlike the Quran. Jesus, Zarathustra and Buddha were men of peace, while Muhammad was a warlord. Islamism wouldn't exist, if the Quran didn't condone violence. But I'm strongly opposed to Islamophobia, because many Muslims are decent and tolerant people. 
https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/020620153





Of course, I condemn even the slightest attack on the natives' culture or religion. I can't comment on the specific incidents you mentioned because I don't know enough about them, but if you're correct, I think they ought to be condemned.

I guess I could also be called a social democrat or socialist of some sort. I admire Väinö Tanner and Miina Sillanpää and want to retain things like universal healthcare and education in Finland. However, I've been quite eclectic when forming my political views, so this is not the whole truth. I'm opposed to Morales because of my opposition to the Pink Tide in general.

I'm an admirer of René Guénon and as such I have no need to take the side of any religion against any other. I just don't think any traditional religion is a "religion of peace" in the modern sense. Maybe in the sense that they give their practitioner inner peace, but not in the sense of holding hands and playing Trouble together.

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Jeanine Añez, the conservative Christian interim President of Bolivia, is calling indigenous Andean religion satanic. That's unacceptable. Christians ought to respect the indigenous religion of their nation. Christians shall of course not worship the gods of the indigenous religion, but they ought to respect the indigenous religion as part of the cultural heritage of their nation. I would never call worshipping Ahura Mazda or Wotan/Odin satanic.
I support the Pink Tide, despite being an anti-Communist, because Lula, Dilma Rousseff, Evo Morales, Nestor Kirchner, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner and Rafael Correa are traditional social democrats, who reject neoliberalism and Blair-style social democracy, rather than Communist. Hugo Chavez was far more radical than the other presidents of the Pink Tide, but even  Chavez wasn't a Communist. Chavez considered himself a Nasserist. Chavez was a practicing Christian and he was re-elected in free elections.

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Worship of any being, be it angel, god or saint other than the Triune God YHWH is satanic.
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Worship of any being, be it angel, god or saint other than the Triune God YHWH is satanic.

I will never worship any other god than the Triune God/Adonai, but if somebody chooses to worship other gods, I will respect their choice. Calling worshiping pagan gods satanic is wrong, because worshiping pagan gods isn't evil. Pagan gods are false gods from a Judeo-Christian point of view, but they aren't evil. In ancient Zoroastrianism, Ahura Mazda is the good god, while Ahriman is the evil god (modern Kurdish Zoroastrianism is monotheist. Ahura Mazda is the only god in modern Kurdish Zoroastrianism). The central message of Zoroastrianism is good thoughts, good words and good deeds. In Zoroastrianism, good works is necessary in order to enter heaven. The Nestorian Church also believes in good works being necessary for salvation. The Protestant belief of sola fide (justification by faith alone) is utterly wrong.
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Bolivian security forces are killing peaceful protestors, who support Evo Morales. The interim President of Bolivia claiming, that indigenous Andean religion is satanic, her security forces killing peaceful protestors and her supporters burning the flag of indigenous Bolivians are very worrying, even from a conservative point of view. Long live the indigenous revolution in Bolivia! Long live the Tawantinsuyu (the Inca Empire)!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/16/bolivia-protests-five-killed-in-rally-calling-for-exiled-moraless-return


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Here is an article in the Guardian, which provides a balanced evaluation of the legacy of Evo Morales:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/17/bolivia-more-volatile-than-ever-as-president-flees-and-leaders-denounce-a-coup
 
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Evo Morales has renounced his candidacy in the next Bolivian presidential election. Evo Morales has made the right decision by choosing not to run in the next Bolivian presidential election, because he has overstayed his welcome. I will support the new presidential candidate of MAS, the socialist party of Evo Morales.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/25/evo-morales-refused-to-stand-in-elections-due-to-ethnic-conflict-fears

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Evo Morales has renounced his candidacy in the next Bolivian presidential election. Evo Morales has made the right decision by choosing not to run in the next Bolivian presidential election, because he has overstayed his welcome. I will support the new presidential candidate of MAS, the socialist party of Evo Morales.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/25/evo-morales-refused-to-stand-in-elections-due-to-ethnic-conflict-fears



Looking at the candidates, I guess I'll support some obscure hobo who plays the tunes of the golden age with his guitar on the streets of La Paz.

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