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Geoffrey

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I have been 25 years an activist for Na Nach Nachman Meuman in Israel. The Rabbi said over 30 years ago that China and Italy would have only 1 question:”what is Na Nach” he also said that a cancer like epidemic with no cure would emerge.

About 27 years ago he said that the world is in great danger we must announce that he is King, we must accept this.

We have the original sound tracks. He passed away 25 years ago.

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The behaviour of the Democrats in Congress in delaying a stimulus bill is ridiculous:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-relief-nancy-pelosi-house-democrats-proposal-1400-page-partisan-boondoggle/

Never let a crisis go to waste, I guess.
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The Democrats blame the Republicans for stuffing the bill with pork, the Republicans the Democrats for inserting irrelevant pieces of activism. I've yet to see a clear, non-partisan analysis showing which side actually is to blame, though both is as always a distinct possibility. Your previous post bangs the same drum Trump has been pounding lately in his panic that the tanking economy might cost him re-election. But I'm not all sure that braving out the pandemic wouldn't lead to a worse economic collapse than now seems inevitable, at least there is the possibility of managing the situation this way. I'm very glad though not to be the one having to make decisions when all ends are bad.
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My understanding is Schumer was ready to sign the Republican senate bill until Pelosi came back from holiday to tell him not to. Even moderates like Romney (sometimes hero of the resistance; sometimes ignored by them) and Collins were fuming at Schumer. The Republican bill was no doubt imperfect, but I have heard little of it containing pork. The worst that seems to be said of it is that it gives too much power to the Treasury Secretary to give out emergency loans or it gives too much to business and not enough to households and workers. It seems to be the Democrats who are trying to get completely random and irrelevant political goals funded, like research into global warming.

I don't think anyone, including Trump, is saying that we should just open everything back up, if that's what you mean by braving out the pandemic, but it strikes me as eminently sensible to ask what kinds of economic damage are likely to follow from a complete shutdown. Trump has, as always, phrased things poorly, but he's not wrong in principle. He's more right than, say, Cuomo, who said saving one life would be enough to justify the measures being taken in New York. There are trade-offs. You are correct that at this time, even leaving aside any health effects, just opening up would likely cause great economic damage. But the fact remains there are some very painful and uncertain calculations that have to be made here. The shutdowns can't go on for months, so we have to think about how to proceed over the next month or two. It isn't even clear at this point whether the shutdowns have just postponed the same level of outbreak that would have occurred without them. A lot of that will depend on what measures, like more hospital beds, governments have taken in the interim. But, again, I have no definite answers.
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The number of landline users decreased from 190.83 million to 189.99 million, a drop of 840,000.

The number is 21 million for Chinese cellphone users.

This is not even the cancer prediction.

The hearts of fathers going back to the hearts of sons and Vice versa could avoid the great day of judgement and maintain the language of freedom as the dominant language.

The lockdown is a GREAT thing and the Fed. Should definitely sponsor it for another month. Trust the First Lady, some call her stupid, but when it comes to being moral, the woman has principals and is not stupid, she even chose the best guy around.

Na Nach

Oh and by the way...you guys need to crown the King. No one else can do that for you (except Gd).

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The Coronavirus ought to be called the Newroz virus rather than the China virus, because it became widespread in Europe during Newroz (the Kurdish New Year). 
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Wow. Now the troll is trying to rival Geoffrey for lunacy. Obviously he isn't content with being himself unrivalled for idiocy, ignorance, repetitiveness and untruthfulness.
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Coming out with your love, Peter. You must be a real follower of the real Jesus. I am greatly impressed.
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Peter the Great would have your ass in a second unfortunately your colleagues took good care of him.
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How about the Kurdish virus?
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Wow. Now the troll is trying to rival Geoffrey for lunacy. Obviously he isn't content with being himself unrivalled for idiocy, ignorance, repetitiveness and untruthfulness.

It was a joke. 
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From anyone else, it would have been recognised as such. From you? Hardly the first bizarre pronouncement you've made. Or the thirty-first.
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Peter is a bully, not quite a troll, no it is not the same thing at all is it.
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My understanding is Schumer was ready to sign the Republican senate bill until Pelosi came back from holiday to tell him not to. Even moderates like Romney (sometimes hero of the resistance; sometimes ignored by them) and Collins were fuming at Schumer. The Republican bill was no doubt imperfect, but I have heard little of it containing pork. The worst that seems to be said of it is that it gives too much power to the Treasury Secretary to give out emergency loans or it gives too much to business and not enough to households and workers. It seems to be the Democrats who are trying to get completely random and irrelevant political goals funded, like research into global warming.


Here's a perspective on it:

https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/stop-the-6-trillion-coronavirus-corporate

Far from un-biased, Matt Stoller is quite liberal, but he's made waves for criticizing the Obama administration, where he worked for a time, for cow-towing to big business. His axe to grind is consolidation of monopoly power, and though I'm to the right on him on most issues, as a distributist I think he's nailed a lot of things regarding what the government should be doing to counter the growing threat of the corporate surveillance state. 

I like his weekly column, because again, though he and I differ quite a lot on ideology, he calls out democrats just as much as republicans when they screw the little guy. 

Anyway, in the article above he classifies the bill blocked as a $6-10 trillion corporate welfare bill, rather than providing relief to those in need. That's something worth considering.
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It was a joke. 


You forgot to make it funny.

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Peter is a bully, not quite a troll, no it is not the same thing at all is it.


Your posts look indistinguishable from a lot of email spam I get. You're either a troll or truly crazy.
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