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MonarchistCatherine

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Coronations are valuable traditions in countries where they have existed for so many centuries. The Nederlands never had a real coronation, though, we only have an inauguration ceremony. We might get another one in the next few years, the queen is already older than any of her predecessors were when they resigned.

but i have read in the same book as recommended above, that there was planned a coronation in 1815 in bruxelles which was then dutch. unfortunately it never took place. but it was supposed to happen, and after aææ crowns are made for being placed on the head of a monarch. it also said that the dutch crowns are too big for an average head, but perhaps the first crown was made so to allow the king to wear a whig under it. that was normal formerly. so the later kings could have worn a whig or made the new crown smaller, but unfortunately they didnt. and i still wonder why i havent been able to find a photo of quees beatrix in coronation robes with the regalia displayed beside her. such a photo exist for her mother, late queen juliana. but they might even have stopped making such photos i fear. :-(

I agree with you, DutchMonarchist, the Dutch ceremony of inauguration is the national tradition, and it is really beatiful. It dates back to 1815 and King William I. Maybe the coronation was planned, but it never took place in The Netherlands and present enthronement ceremony of Dutch monarchs should be preserved. There is no need to perform coronations in countries like Denmark, because is has a long tradition of inaugurations.

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Coronations are valuable traditions in countries where they have existed for so many centuries. The Nederlands never had a real coronation, though, we only have an inauguration ceremony. We might get another one in the next few years, the queen is already older than any of her predecessors were when they resigned.

but i have read in the same book as recommended above, that there was planned a coronation in 1815 in bruxelles which was then dutch. unfortunately it never took place. but it was supposed to happen, and after aææ crowns are made for being placed on the head of a monarch. it also said that the dutch crowns are too big for an average head, but perhaps the first crown was made so to allow the king to wear a whig under it. that was normal formerly. so the later kings could have worn a whig or made the new crown smaller, but unfortunately they didnt. and i still wonder why i havent been able to find a photo of quees beatrix in coronation robes with the regalia displayed beside her. such a photo exist for her mother, late queen juliana. but they might even have stopped making such photos i fear. :-(


I agree with you, DutchMonarchist, the Dutch ceremony of inauguration is the national tradition, and it is really beatiful. It dates back to 1815 and King William I. Maybe the coronation was planned, but it never took place in The Netherlands and present enthronement ceremony of Dutch monarchs should be preserved. There is no need to perform coronations in countries like Denmark, because is has a long tradition of inaugurations.

well, i wouldnt exactly call it a long tradition of inaguration here in denmark. it is rather a breach with the old tradition as before 1848 kings were always crowned here as long as crowns existed. as for netherlands i wouldnt want to abolish the present ceremony, but rather to expand it.

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Coronations are valuable traditions in countries where they have existed for so many centuries. The Nederlands never had a real coronation, though, we only have an inauguration ceremony. We might get another one in the next few years, the queen is already older than any of her predecessors were when they resigned.

but i have read in the same book as recommended above, that there was planned a coronation in 1815 in bruxelles which was then dutch. unfortunately it never took place. but it was supposed to happen, and after aææ crowns are made for being placed on the head of a monarch. it also said that the dutch crowns are too big for an average head, but perhaps the first crown was made so to allow the king to wear a whig under it. that was normal formerly. so the later kings could have worn a whig or made the new crown smaller, but unfortunately they didnt. and i still wonder why i havent been able to find a photo of quees beatrix in coronation robes with the regalia displayed beside her. such a photo exist for her mother, late queen juliana. but they might even have stopped making such photos i fear. :-(


I agree with you, DutchMonarchist, the Dutch ceremony of inauguration is the national tradition, and it is really beatiful. It dates back to 1815 and King William I. Maybe the coronation was planned, but it never took place in The Netherlands and present enthronement ceremony of Dutch monarchs should be preserved. There is no need to perform coronations in countries like Denmark, because is has a long tradition of inaugurations.

well, i wouldnt exactly call it a long tradition of inaguration here in denmark. it is rather a breach with the old tradition as before 1848 kings were always crowned here as long as crowns existed. as for netherlands i wouldnt want to abolish the present ceremony, but rather to expand it.

Ooops, sorry for my stupid mistake. I meant... In the last sentence of my post it should be "The Netherlands" instead of "Denmark". The whole post is about The Netherlands. Of course coronations in Denmark have to be restored. In The Netherlands they can be restored, but they don't have to. Coronation is a national tradition in Denmark.

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I started a new topic some days ago on the forum, it is about restoration of coronations in all countries, not only Austria-Hungary. If you want to discuss it, I think it would be better to post here.

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