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wainscottbl

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To be honest, given I am not the biggest supporter of this government anywayy, I do think using this to consider a wider point can be accomplished. I just saw a cartoon of the salary of Congress, which is around $175,000. This is like what say CEOs make at least, Air Traffic Controllers, pilots of 777s, etc. So while this is a very, very nice salary, it is not the only profession to be so high, and besides I think the objection to such a high salary for Congress is very egalitarian. Conservatives are so anxious to show how wrong congressional salary is, and demand they make less, yet why should CEOs be so entitled to make more when we can easily show it is at the direct cost of the worker? After all, their mindset against Congress making more deep down is Jacobin and anti-monarchy, purely egalitarian. I am not so against higher salaries for those who actually play a great part in a republic. Those who lead the country deserve a higher salary if anyone is my belief, and though they should have a consideration of the needs of the people, there was always a reason royalty lived with a certain pomp. I think this can be applied to the legislature such as Parliament or Congress in a republic. 
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I just saw a cartoon of the salary of Congress, which is around $175,000. This is like what say CEOs make at least,

I think, Sir, you have a very warped and rosy view of American capitalism. Just did a random check of several CEOs salaries, not well known, big companies or 'hot' tech and computer firms. The lowest I could find was $1.5 MILLION, ranging from there up to the $2+ million range. Yes, there a a few that range lower, but based on available public data, the AVERAGE compensation of an S&P 500 company's CEO in 2010 was $11,4000,000/annum. That's 102,325 times the median worker's pay of $33,840 in 2010.

OTH, the Congressional pay is only approx. five times the median worker's pay.

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It's not egalitarian to demand that our congressmen make less ( and as jovan pointed out they do make less then CEOs). In medieval monarchies, the king lived off the money he gained from his own estates, not off of the coffers of the state. Congressesional salaries are fine, the problem is the benefits received. Service in the legislature is a public service, not a job.
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Jovan, sir, I know CEOs made what you just quoted. I was fully aware they make that much and should have said so, which even strengthened my point. In any case that is sickening the amount they make relative to the worker, but as much as I dislike the American system,, I still stand by what I said on the Congressional salary. 
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My most dear lord, king and husband,

The hour of my death now drawing on, the tender love I owe you forceth me, my case being such, to commend myself to you, and to put you in remembrance with a few words of the health and safeguard of your soul which you ought to prefer before all worldly matters, and before the care and pampering of your body, for the which you have cast me into many calamities and yourself into many troubles. For my part, I pardon you everything, and I wish to devoutly pray God that He will pardon you also. For the rest, I commend unto you our daughter Mary, beseeching you to be a good father unto her, as I have heretofore desired. I entreat you also, on behalf of my maids, to give them marriage portions, which is not much, they being but three. For all my other servants I solicit the wages due them, and a year more, lest they be unprovided for. Lastly, I make this vow, that mine eyes desire you above all things.

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Jovan, sir, I know CEOs made what you just quoted. I was fully aware they make that much and should have said so, which even strengthened my point. In any case that is sickening the amount they make relative to the worker, but as much as I dislike the American system,, I still stand by what I said on the Congressional salary. 

I wasn't arguing your point on Congressional salaries. I just wanted to make clear that MCs do not make anything like CEOs.

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