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I would appreciate feedback and suggestions regarding my proposed Bourbon Commonwealth.
It is an idea for after Brazilian and French restoration that would, alongside bringing the Bourbon Kingdoms closer together, hopefully resolve the dispute between French Orleans and Spanish Bourbon supporters for the throne of France.
https://sites.google.com/view/sfrr/bourbon-commonwealth
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I would appreciate feedback and suggestions regarding my proposed Bourbon Commonwealth.
It is an idea for after Brazilian and French restoration that would, alongside bringing the Bourbon Kingdoms closer together, hopefully resolve the dispute between French Orleans and Spanish Bourbon supporters for the throne of France.
https://sites.google.com/view/sfrr/bourbon-commonwealth
bourbon commonwealth cover.png 

Brazil being a member of a Bourbon Commonwealth makes no sense, because while the Brazilian imperial dynasty are descended from the Bourbons in the male line, their claim to the throne of Brazil is derived from the Braganzas. 
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Brazil being a member of a Bourbon Commonwealth makes no sense, because while the Brazilian imperial dynasty are descended from the Bourbons in the male line, their claim to the throne of Brazil is derived from the Braganzas. 

Whilst it is not a Bourbon kingdom per se, the reigning house are cousins of the Orleans, even bearing the arms of the Orleans as an inescutcheon, so I see no reason to not include them.

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Also, the Bourbons and Braganzas are both Capetians.
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Also, the Bourbons and Braganzas are both Capetians.

Indeed, a further link, though it was the orleams connection that made me decide

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Whilst it is not a Bourbon kingdom per se, the reigning house are cousins of the Orleans, even bearing the arms of the Orleans as an inescutcheon, so I see no reason to not include them.


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Also, the Brazilians remain in the French succession as they are in the male line of the Bourbon-Orleans, so their inclusion makes sense.

You will have to resolve the dispute over the Two-Sicilies to include them, and there are the Bourbon-Parmas to include with the wacky Carlist claims to Spain of one of it's members.  The Royal House of Luxembourg are also male line Bourbon-Parmas.

Then there are the Bourbon-Bhopals of India with their interesting claim...although that probably would require some DNA testing...

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Indeed, a further link, though it was the orleams connection that made me decide

Why don't you propose the establishment of an Oldenburg commonwealth consisting of Denmark, Norway, Russia and Greece (the Romanovs are descended from the Oldenburgs in the male line)?
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Why don't you propose the establishment of an Oldenburg commonwealth consisting of Denmark, Norway, Russia and Greece (the Romanovs are descended from the Oldenburgs in the male line)?


And at some point in the future, the British Commonwealth as well.

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And at some point in the future, the British Commonwealth as well.

That would de facto mean Russia and Denmark joining the British Commonwealth, and that would be unacceptable to the Russians and the Danes. Russia is an ancient enemy of Great Britain, and Denmark is culturally far closer to Germany than to Great Britain. 
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Also, the Brazilians remain in the French succession as they are in the male line of the Bourbon-Orleans, so their inclusion makes sense.

You will have to resolve the dispute over the Two-Sicilies to include them, and there are the Bourbon-Parmas to include with the wacky Carlist claims to Spain of one of it's members.  The Royal House of Luxembourg are also male line Bourbon-Parmas.

Then there are the Bourbon-Bhopals of India with their interesting claim...although that probably would require some DNA testing...

The Brazilian Orleans are not directly in the succession to the Orleanist or Fusionist/Unionist claims to the French throne.
They have reserved the right to run for election under the estates general as the "new" royal house if the main-line Orleans are left without a Salic heir:

https://frenchunionist.org/2019/06/17/family-pact-of-1909/

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