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jovan66102

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Not that I'm that interested in the Bonapartes, but I ran across something today that made me curious. I was researching the College of Cardinals and the Diocese of Rome regarding the upcoming Papal election when I noticed that there had been Cardinal Bonaparte. He was Lucien Louis Joseph Napoleon, Cardinal Bonaparte, 4th Prince of Canino and Musignano, the grandson of Joseph Bonaparte. On his death, he was succeeded in his temporal title by his brother. I went to check said brother out on Wikipedia and discovered this:

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Napoléon Charles Grégoire Jacques Philippe Bonaparte, 5th Prince of Canino and Musignano (5 February 1839 – 11 February 1899) was born in Rome the son of Prince Charles Lucien Bonaparte and Princess Zénaïde Bonaparte, but his real mother was Maria Testaferrata, Charles' mistress.


The reference listed in the Wikipedia article is a link to thePeerage.com which, referencing Jirí Louda and Michael MacLagan, Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, 2nd edition (London, U.K.: Little, Brown and Company, 1999), gives essentially the same information minus the tidbit I've put in red above.

Just curious, does anyone know anything about this. How did an illegitimate son (if he was indeed illegitimate) succeed to the title?

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Donna Marie Said-Testaferrata born in Santi, North of Rabat, Malta on the year of 1820 to Principe Salvatore Said and Marie Dimech-Testaferrata.

She met Prince Charles Lucien Bonaparte, Principe di Canino e Musignan in 1838. Prince Charles took an instant liking to her and had placed her in his custody at his apartment where she was to be his mistress and lady of the night for his pleasures. Marie slowly sank into life in her new home and the trappings of the Italian aristocratic friends, feelings for home slowly faded and her love of Charles grew fonder. Marie was being paid to live a peaceful and colorful life with Charles. But Charles’s wife had been aware of Marie’s existence and too had taken a liking and invited her to her home from time to time. This more or less kept Charles loyal to his wife and his mistress, no different women at his bedside, one could say a complete life with one’s desires at ease. The Italian Aristocracy had always kept mistresses and it was a way of life in the 19th century. Her travels were mainly in and out of Rome  to a country plcae, Palace or mansion for the day of tea and activities, though Marie was earning the respect of her new friends as a typical role model. Marie bore four children in the five years of living in Rome, and the year 1845, Charles Lucien wanted no more, her job was done. Though her children had become part of Charles-Lucien family and even registered as born by his wife, not as Marie’s children. Her first son was Napoleon Charles Bonaparte, born 5th February 1839 , succeeded as the 5th Principe di Canino e Musignano and Principe by the Pope. He later Died 189 in Rome, and married Maria Cristina de Principi Ruspoli, and had three children.

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Merci, Hubert.
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