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Combined statistics for kinship group 2 part I: individuals forming four or more connections
CodeNameTIIIIIICodeNameTIIIIII
FII2SFerdinando II of the Two Sicilies191513ASCAlfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha44--
FrI2SFrancesco I of the Two Sicilies1416  7C3PCarlo III, Duke of Parma4-2  2
AI2SAlfonso I of the Two Sicilies9-7  2CIXDChristian IX of Denmark41-  3
FSCFranz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld93-  6EHLErnst, 4th Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg4--  4
P3EBPedro III of Brazil9-5  4FSAFriedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg4--  4
RoIPRoberto I, Duke of Parma912  6GIGGeorge I of Greece43-  1
FLMSFriedrich Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin8-2  6LDWDuke Ludwig of Württemberg4--  4
LIITLeopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany81-  7LPIFLouis-Philippe I of France4-1  3
IsEBIsabel I of Brazil6-5  1MIPMiguel I of Portugal4-3  1
CIGConstantine I of Greece53-  2PIEBPedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal4-3  1
F3GFriedrich III of Germany52-  3VEIIIVittorio Emanuele II of Italy4-2  2
KLHLKarl Ludwig, 3rd Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg5--  5WIIGWilhelm II of Germany44--
AFAArchduke Franz of Austria4--  4      
Titles in pretence appear in blue      
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Combined statistics for kinship group 2 part II: individuals forming under four connections
CodeNameTIIIIIICodeNameTIIIIII
FFIIMSFriedrich Franz II, GD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin3--3FPFFerdinand, Prince Royal of France1--1
FPSCPrince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha3-12FPNPrince Frederik of the Netherlands1--1
FW3PFriedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia3-12GIIWPGeorg II, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont1--1
HVIFHenri VI of France3-3-GIWPGeorg I, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont1--1
J3FJean III of France3-3-KAHSKarl Anton, P of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen1--1
JVIPJoão VI of Portugal3-21KASWKarl August, GD of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach1--1
AKLArchduke Karl Ludwig of Austria2-2-KIAKarl I/IV of Austria-Hungary1-1-
EAIIHErnst August II of Hanover22--KIRKyril I of Russia11--
KLWRKarl, Prince of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg2--2L1BLéopold I of Belgium1-1-
P7FPhilippe VII of France2-11MJBMaximilian Joseph, Duke in Bavaria1--1
RPOPrince Robert of Orléans, duc de Chartres2--2NIMNikola I of Montenegro11--
AEAArchduchess Elisabeth of Austria1--1PIRPaul I Petrovitch of Russia1-1-
BIISMBernhard II, Duke of Saxe-Meiningen1--1PIVEBPedro IV of Brazil1--1
EA3HErnst August III of Hanover11--PIWPhilipp I of Württemberg1-1-
EFAEmanuele Filiberto, Duke of Aosta1-1-PMEPrincess Marie of Edinburgh11--
F8DFrederik VIII of Denmark1--1RDCRudolf, 11th Duke of Croÿ1--1
FF3MSFriedrich Franz III, GD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin11--VGBVictoria of Great Britain and Ireland11--
FKWTFranz, Count Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau1--1VSCPrincess Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld1-1-
FNWFriedrich Wilhelm, Prince of Nassau-Weilburg1--1      
Titles in pretence appear in blue          
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Relationships statistics for the heirs to the European sovereigns at 21st July 2013, the accession day of King Philippe of Belgium
CodeNameTIIIIIICodeNameTIIIIII
CIXDChristian IX of Denmark7124MIPMiguel I of Portugal2-2-
KLBKarl Ludwig, Hereditary Prince of Baden7-34CIVSCarlos IV of Spain1--1
VGBVictoria of Great Britain and Ireland41-3E7GBEdward VII of Great Britain11--
F8DFrederik VIII of Denmark31-2F8SHFriedrich VIII, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein1--1
MIBMaximilian I Joseph of Bavaria3--3FFIIMSFriedrich Franz II, GD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin11--
OIISNOscar II of Sweden and Norway31-2FI2SFerdinando I of the Two Sicilies1-1-
WDNWilhelm, Duke of Nassau31-2FLMSFriedrich Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin1--1
CPSNPrince Carl of Sweden and Norway2--2GIGGeorge I of Greece1--1
FW3PFriedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia21-1GVISGustaf VI Adolf of Sweden11--
KBaKarl, Grand Duke of Baden2-2-GVWPGeorg Viktor, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont11--
KFBKarl Friedrich, Grand Duke of Baden2--2L3BLéopold III of Belgium1-1-
KLHLKarl Ludwig, 3rd Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg2-11LIIELeopold II, Holy Roman Emperor1-1-
LIXHDLudwig IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt2--2PIRPaul I Petrovitch of Russia11--
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Relationships of Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe, with the members of kinship group 1
Monarch/HoH/HeirBoris III
of Bulgaria
Duarte II
of Portugal
Pedro III
of Brazil
Otto I
of AH
Pedro IV
of Brazil
Michael I
of Romania
Carlo IV
D of Parma
Henri VII
of France
Maximilian II
GD of Baden
Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe5c1r KNW4c2r CAHL5c1r KNW5c1r CAHL6c2r FAIIB
6c2r FJSC
3c1r GDC5c1r CAHL4c1r FLMS3c1r GDC
Monarch/HoH/HeirC  II
of Greece
Alexander II
of Serbia
Napoléon VII
of France
Maria I
of Russia
E August V
of Hanover
Lorenzo I
D of Modena
CP Friedrich
of Württemberg
Aimone
P of Piedmont
G Friedrich I
of Germany
Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe3c1r GDC4c GDC4c2r LDW4c1r NIR3c1r GWSL5c FLMS5c FLMS4c GDC5c NIR
The first instance of Prince Alexander's name is linked to his Genealogics ancestry, and the second to his Wikipedia article
Key:  
CAHLFAIIBFJSC
C Albrecht, Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenberg (3)F Albrecht II, D of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel (1)Franz Josias, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (1)
FLMSGDCGWSL
F Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (3)Grand Duke Constantine Nicolaievich of Russia (5)Georg Wilhelm, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe (1)
KNWLDWNIR
Karl Christian, Prince of Nassau-Weilburg (2)Duke Ludwig of Württemberg (1)Nicholas I Pavlovitch, Emperor of Russia (2)
Most connections formed:GDC (5)CAHL, FLMS (3)KNW, NIR (2)Others (1)
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Relationships of Heinrich Donatus, Hereditary Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe, with the members of kinship group 2
Monarch/HoH/HeirSimeon II
of Bulgaria
Luiz I
of Brazil
Duarte III
of Portugal
Pedro V
of Brazil
P Margareta
of Romania
Karl II/V
of Austria-Hungary
P Jean
of Orléans
CP Paul
of Greece
Carlo V
D of Parma
H Donatus, HP of Schaumburg-Lippe6c1r KNW5c1r FSA4c3r KLHL4c2r FLMS4c1r GDC4c1r BIISM
4c1r JLB
5c1r FLMS4c1r GDC4c1r JLB
Monarch/HoH/HeirBernhard
HGD of Baden
CP Peter
of Serbia
Tse George
of Russia
HP Amedeo
of Modena
P J-Christophe
PI of France
P Wilhelm
of Württemberg
Pss Alexandra
of Hanover
P Umberto
of Savoy
Carl Friedrich
German CP
H Donatus, HP of Schaumburg-Lippe4c1r GDC5c GDC4c AISL
4c MSA
6c FLMS
6c WHC
5c2r LDW5c1r GIIWP4c1r GWSL4c1r GDC6c NIR
The first instance of Prince Heinrich Donatus's name is linked to his Genealogics ancestry, and the second to his Wikipedia article
Key:  
AISLBIISMFLMS
Adolf I, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe (1)Bernhard II, Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (1)F Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (3)
FSAGDCGIIWP
Friedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg (1)Grand Duke Constantine Nicolaievich of Russia (5)Georg II, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont (1)
GWSLJLBKLHL
Georg Wilhelm, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe (1)Julius, Count of Lippe-Biesterfeld (2)Karl Ludwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenberg (1)
KNWLDWMSA
Karl Christian, Prince of Nassau-Weilburg (1)Duke Ludwig of Württemberg (1)Prince Moritz of Saxe-Altenburg (1)
NIRWHC 
Nicholas I Pavlovitch, Emperor of Russia (1)Landgrave Wilhelm of Hesse-Cassel (1) 
Most connections formed:GDC (5)FLMS (3)JLB (2)Others (1)
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Having repented, as explained in the footnote to the thread introduction, of my original decision to entirely omit Alexander, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe and his son Hereditary Prince Heinrich Donatus (as they would be known were the German Empire and its constituent realms happily still with us), two addenda now appear above. These detail the relationships of the father with kinship group 1 and the son with kinship group 2, and merit a little discussion, which I will try to keep brief.

Although I have not yet prepared the detailed note I intend on the relationships displayed in the rest of the thread, I don’t need to in order to know that these relationships are quite different in character to those of kinship group 2, and more like those of kinship group 1; that is, they are much more what is expected, and follow the pattern seen in other threads throughout the section. Protestants themselves, the Schaumburg-Lippe princes relate entirely through other Protestants or through Orthodox ancestors, both to members of those religions and to Catholics. All relationships are either fairly or very remote, unsurprising considering that Prince Alexander’s mother was minor nobility, and his marriage was to a princess of a mediatised house.

The remoteness though was due more to the first of these. From a glance at the ancestry of Princess Marie-Louise of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg, first wife of Prince Alexander and mother of Prince Heinrich Donatus, you would be forgiven for thinking that no connections would form through her, they would all be through Prince Alexander. I did more than glance and have some familiarity anyway with that family, so expected she probably would contribute some. It turned out to be three of the total twenty-one relationships.

Of the eighteen members of kinship group 2, ten relate to Prince Heinrich Donatus through the same ancestor as their fathers did to Prince Alexander, the relationship differing only in degree. However, that leaves eight relating through either a different or an additional ancestor, of which Princess Marie-Louise accounts for three. Whence the other five? There are two sides to the equal marriage coin, and these five have through their own mothers* nearer mutual ancestors with Prince Alexander, and therefore Prince Heinrich Donatus, than their fathers possess. So between his mother and theirs, these relationships, if without the surprises offered by kinship group 2, are in themselves perfectly good exemplars of the effect of equal marriage on relationships from generation to generation. Also, in their very expectedness they provide a contrast with the relationships seen within that group.  I am glad I decided to add them to the thread.



* For Tsesarevich George, read ‘father’ or 'mother' as appropriate, here and below.

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