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This thread comprises two sets of charts, with accompanying ancillary material. The first of the sets was posted several days before the second set, which I had not then even begun on. It is complete and in place now and has its own introduction, so I will mainly discuss just the first set here. The charts in that set deal with the relationships of what I am calling kinship group 1. Its members are those sovereigns, heads of house or heirs to either that appear in the four equal marriage charts in the original Blood Royal thread and belong (or belonged, since some have passed away) to currently non-reigning houses* – this because I have long wanted to do something with present-day and recent pretenders, and with this limitation most of the individuals appearing would be in that category.

A further proviso was that there must have been children of the equal marriage shown in the Blood Royal charts, which in the majority of cases there was. This was because the second set of charts covers, or at the date of first posting was planned to cover, the relationships of the heirs, or in some cases other children, of the members of the first set. These individuals form kinship group 2.

The idea obviously was to produce both an exemplar and an exploration of the difference equal marriage makes to relationships from generation to generation, using a much larger group of people than the current sovereigns of any particular day would provide, especially latterly when they rarely marry equally, i.e. within their own real and wider kinship groups, of which the groups here are subsets.

Relationships between the members of kinship group 1 are covered by three charts, split Protestant and Orthodox with each other, Catholics with each other, then the first set with the second set. The charts and their keys and statistical summaries are followed by two tables of combined statistics. Obviously the arbitrary nature of my selection criteria means that neither kinship group has any real statistical validity, but I have to produce the statistics anyway as a check on myself. I don’t have to show them but wished to, as now the second set of charts and tables is in they provide a readier basis for comparison between the groups than merely glancing through the charts.

A few more points, which apply to the second set also: ‘heir’ refers only to heirs in direct line, not heirs and heiresses presumptive. I have left Hereditary Grand Duke Georg Donatus and his son out due to the tragic circumstances in which they died, along with most of the rest of the family and several attendants and crew. I felt it would be rather indecent in particular to include a child who died so young and in such terrible circumstances in my treatment of these relationships. Infante Carlos of Spain is one of the two claimants to the Two Sicilies, but was also left out along with his son Prince Pedro on the basis that an Infante of Spain can hardly be said not to belong to a currently reigning family.

It might be thought that the spread in age within the first group in particular renders the exercise less meaningful than it might have been. I don’t think so, though; the earliest-born person in these charts is Boris III of Bulgaria, 30th January 1894, and the latest-born in the first set is Georg Friedrich, Prince of Prussia, 10th June 1976. Boris III died in 1943, but obviously it would not have been in any way extraordinary if he had been alive when Georg Friedrich was born, he would have been 82. So although they never were it is perfectly possible that the entire group could have been alive at the same time, making the selection reasonable enough from that point of view, I feel.

It is in fact by birthdate that the individuals in the charts are ordered, since it had to be on some sort of basis and I preferred not to go by notional accession dates. I have however used notional titles in both the charts and keys, both to make it all a little bit more fun and because in some ways that places individuals in context better than the styles they actually use. As neither Genealogics nor Wikipedia are in on my little game, clicking links will soon reveal those real styles. As the combined statistics have no links, titles in pretence are coloured differently in them.

On this question, I do of course realise that you can’t for example have two Emperors of Brazil on the go at once, nor can you have Henri VII and Napoléon VII simultaneously reigning in Paris. These are relationships charts, not an attempt at constructing a plausible fantasy, and except as noted all those with a valid basis of claim who otherwise fit the criteria feature in them, with the titles they would bear or have borne when reigning. Heirs by the way are known by the titles they would have were the monarchy in question in being.

Finally, the complex and thorny question of the paternal ancestry of Alexander II of Serbia, as I am calling him. There is no doubt that he is the son of Peter II of Yugoslavia, or that Peter II was the son of Alexander I of Yugoslavia and Princess Marie of Romania. The doubt is over Princess Marie’s paternity, and personally I feel certain that she was in fact the daughter not of Ferdinand I of Romania but of Grand Duke Boris Vladimirovich of Russia.

Genealogics take a different view, and therefore one of the links in chart I and a number of those in chart III show nearer relationships through Ferdinand I before they get to those I believe actually exist. In some cases there were too many of those nearer relationships for the ones displayed in the chart to appear at all. In those cases I have created a red link between near ancestors, then adjusted the relationships obtained by the necessary number of generations to get those for Alexander II and the other individual.

In chart I, the link referred to is that for Alexander II and the Bulgarian sovereign Boris III. All Alexander II’s links in chart III are affected one way or the other (that to Napoléon VII the least, in that there is only one invalid relationship, which comes in between a number of valid ones) except that to Aimone, Prince of Piedmont as he would be in my view of the Italian succession were the kingdom in being. There are three of Alexander II’s relationships in that chart that are not sufficiently covered by the general observations here, so I will explain them below.

He is shown as 6c through three different ancestors to Crown Prince Friedrich of Württemberg, as he is named here. Usually multiple relationships all appear in the same link, but here there are two links, one for FSA and FSC and one for KLB. The KLB link is calculated through near ancestors.

The closest relationship of Alexander II with Carlo IV is correctly 7c1r H24RK, and with Duarte II 6c2r H24RK. These are relationships through the aforementioned Grand Duke Boris, which I preferred not to show in the chart, displacing relationships through Princess Marie of Edinburgh (wife of Ferdinand I, mother of Princess Marie of Romania and lover of Grand Duke Boris). After all, while I may feel near moral certainty that Grand Duke Boris was the father, Princess Marie of Edinburgh being the mother was absolutely certain.

I apologise for both the length and dryness of this introduction. Unfortunately, for this exercise to be made meaningful at all I had to specify my selection criteria, and it was also an unfortunate necessity to thoroughly explain the problems with Alexander II's relationships. With that all done, we can now proceed with the charts and their associated material. There is a guide to how to read the charts here.



* German sub-monarchies below the rank of Grand Duchy were excluded. The only effect of this was the intended one, that Prince Alexander of Schaumburg-Lippe, the current claimant to the principality, and his son Prince Heinrich Donatus did not appear. Having looked at their ancestries I concluded that they would just bulk up the charts and keys without adding any particularly interesting links, so contrived this exclusion.

Nevertheless Schaumburg-Lippe, although small (in fact the second smallest of all the German Realms by area, and smallest by population) was a sovereign state, and were it in being Prince Alexander would be its monarch. I decided that while my original omission of him and his son probably was the best thing so far as the charts were concerned, it was wrong to leave them out altogether on no real ground except convenience. So I prepared two addenda detailing the relationships of Prince Alexander with kinship group 1 and his heir Prince Heinrich Donatus with kinship group 2. These now appear on page 2 of the thread following the statistics tables for kinship group 2, accompanied by a brief note discussing the relationships thus displayed.

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I: Relationships between the Protestant and Orthodox members of kinship group 1*
Monarch/HoH/HeirBoris IIIMichael IMaximilian IIConstantine  IIAlexander IIMaria IE August VG Friedrich I
Boris III of Bulgaria2c2r FPSC3c3r FSC3c2r FSC3c3r FSC3c2r FSC3c3r FSC3c3r FSC
Michael I of Romania2c2r FPSC2c GIG1c CIG1c1r CIG
1c1r PME
2c ASC2c1r F3G2c1r ASC
Maximilian II, GD of Baden3c3r FSC2c GIG2c EAIIH
2c GIG
2c1r GIG3c1r VGB2c EAIIH4c VGB
Constantine  II of Greece3c2r FSC1c CIG2c EAIIH
2c GIG
1c1r CIG3c VGB1c EA3H2c1r WIIG
Alexander II of Serbia3c3r FSC1c1r CIG
1c1r PME
2c1r GIG1c1r CIG2c1r ASC3c F3G3c ASC
Maria I of Russia3c2r FSC2c ASC3c1r VGB3c VGB2c1r ASC3c1r VGB1c1r KIR
Ernst August V of Hanover3c3r FSC2c1r F3G2c EAIIH1c EA3H3c F3G3c1r VGB2c1r WIIG
Georg Friedrich I of Germany3c3r FSC2c1r ASC4c VGB2c1r WIIG3c ASC1c1r KIR2c1r WIIG
* Sovereigns, Heads of House or heirs to either appearing in the equal marriages charts in the original Blood Royal topic, excluding members of currently reigning houses
† Please see the introduction to the thread for an explanation of the relationships of Alexander II of Serbia, which can appear different in the red links to what is displayed in the chart
Key:  
ASCCIGEA3H
Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (4)Constantine I of Greece (3)Ernst August III of Hanover (1)
EAIIHF3GFPSC
Ernst August II of Hanover (2)Friedrich III of Germany (2)Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1)
FSCGIGKIR
Franz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (6)George I of Greece (3)Kyril I of Russia (1)
PMEVGBWIIG
Princess Marie of Edinburgh (1)Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland (4)Wilhelm II of Germany (2)
Most connections formed:FSC (6)ASC, VGB (4)CIG, GIG (3)EAIIH, F3G, WIIG (2)Others (1)
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II: Relationships between the Catholic members of kinship group 1*
Head of House/HeirDuarte IIPedro IIIOtto IPedro IVCarlo IVHenri VIINapoléon VIILorenzo ICP FriedrichCP Aimone
Duarte II of Portugal2c2r JVIP1c1r MIP2c2r JVIP1c1r MIP2c3r JVIP4c1r C3S1c2r MIP2c4r JVIP2c4r JVIP
Pedro III of Brazil2c2r JVIP2c1r FII2S1c IsEB3c1r FrI2S
3c1r JVIP
1c1r IsEB3c1r LPIF2c2r FII2S1c2r AI2S
1c2r IsEB
1c2r IsEB
Otto I of Austria-Hungary1c1r MIP2c1r FII2S3c1r FPSC
3c1rFrI2S
3c1r JVIP
3c1r PIEB
1c RoIP4c FPSC
4c FrI2S
4c PIEB
4c1r FSC
4c1r LIIE
U KIA2c1r AKL4c1r FPSC
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r PIEB
Pedro IV of Brazil2c2r JVIP1c IsEB3c1r FPSC
3c1rFrI2S
3c1r JVIP
3c1r PIEB
3c1r FrI2S
3c1r JVIP
U P3EB3c1r LPIF3c2r FPSC
3c2r FrI2S
3c2r LPIF
3c2r PIEB
GU P3EBGU P3EB
Carlo IV, Duke of Parma1c1r MIP3c1r FrI2S
3c1r JVIP
1c RoIP3c1r FrI2S
3c1r JVIP
4c FrI2S4c1r LIIE1c1r RoIP2c2r C3P4c1r FrI2S
Henri VII of France2c3r JVIP1c1r IsEB4c FPSC
4c FrI2S
4c PIEB
N P3EB4c FrI2S4c LPIF1c1r J3FU HVIFU HVIF
Napoléon VII of France4c1r C3S3c1r LPIF4c1r FSC
4c1r LIIE
3c1r LPIF4c1r LIIE4c LPIF3c1r VEIII4c1r LPIF3c1r VEIII
Lorenzo I, Duke of Modena1c2r MIP2c2r FII2SN KIA3c2r FPSC
3c2r FrI2S
3c2r LPIF
3c2r PIEB
1c1r RoIP1c1r J3F3c1r VEIII2c J3F2c EFA
2c J3F
Crown Prince Friedrich of Württemberg2c4r JVIP1c2r AI2S
1c2r IsEB
2c1r AKLGN P3EB2c2r C3PN HVIF4c1r LPIF2c J3F1c HVIF
Aimone, Prince of Piedmont2c4r JVIP1c2r IsEB4c1r FPSC
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r PIEB
GN P3EB4c1r FrI2SN HVIF3c1r VEIII2c EFA
2c J3F
1c HVIF
* Heads of House or their heirs appearing in the equal marriages charts in the original Blood Royal topic, excluding members of currently reigning houses
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Key:  
AI2SAKLC3P
Alfonso I of the Two Sicilies (1)Archduke Karl Ludwig of Austria (1)Carlo III, Duke of Parma (1)
C3SEFAFII2S
Carlos III of Spain (1)Emanuele Filiberto, Duke of Aosta (1)Ferdinando II of the Two Sicilies (2)
FPSCFrI2SFSC
Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (4)Francesco I of the Two Sicilies (8)Franz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (1)
HVIFIsEBJ3F
Henri VI of France (3)Isabel I of Brazil (4)Jean III of France (3)
JVIPKIALIIE
João VI of Portugal (8)Karl I of Austria-Hungary (1)Leopold II, Holy Roman Emperor (2)
LPIFMIPP3EB
Louis-Philippe I of France (5)Miguel I of Portugal (3)Pedro III of Brazil (3)
PIEBRoIPVEIII
Pedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal (4)Roberto I, Duke of Parma (2)Vittorio Emanuele II of Italy (2)
Most connections formed:FrI2S, JVIP (8)LPIF (5)FPSC, IsEB, PIEB (4)HVIF, J3F, MIP, P3EB (3)FII2S, LIIE, RoIP, VEIII (2)Others (1)
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III: Relationships between the Protestant and Orthodox and the Catholic members of kinship group 1*
Monarch/HoH/HeirDuarte II
of Portugal
Pedro III
of Brazil
Otto I
of AH
Pedro IV
of Brazil
Carlo IV
of Parma
Henri VII
of France
N VII
of France
Lorenzo I
of Modena
CP Friedrich
of Württemberg
CP Aimone
of Italy
Boris III of Bulgaria3c1r CIVS2c FII2S1c RoIP2c1r FPSC
2c1r LPIF
1c RoIP2c2r FPSC
2c2r LPIF
2c2r LPIF1c1r RoIP2c2r C3P
2c2r FII2S
2c3r FPSC
2c3r LPIF
Michael I of Romania2c3r JVIP3c1r FPSC
3c1r PIEB
3c MIIP3c1r FPSC
3c1r PIEB
3c2r JVIP4c FPSC
4c PIEB
4c1r FSC
4c1r LDW
3c1r MIIP4c1r FPSC
4c1r PIEB
1c1r CIG
Maximilian II, GD of Baden6c2r LKNS4c2r FSC4c1r MIB4c2r FSC7c1r LKNS5c1r FSC4c1r LDW5c MIB5c MIB2c GIG
Constantine  II of Greece3c2r KLHL4c1r FSC4c1r KLHL4c1r FSC4c1r KLHL5c KASW4c1r FSC
4c1r LDW
5c KLHL5c1r FSA
5c1r FSC
5c1r KASW
1c1r CIG
Alexander II of Serbia6c3r LCSG
6c3r LKNS
4c2r FSC5c1r FSC
5c1r KLB
4c2r FSC7c2r LCSG
7c2r LKNS
5c1r FSC
5c1r KASW
4c2r FSC
4c2r LDW
6c FSC
6c KLB
6c FSA
6c FSC

6c KLB
2c CIG
Maria I of Russia6c1r H24RK4c1r FSC5c FSC
5c KLB
4c1r FSC7c H24RK4c1r FLMS4c1r FSC5c FLMS5c FLMS3c1r VGB
Ernst August V of Hanover3c2r KLHL4c2r FSC4c1r KLHL4c2r FSC4c1r KLHL5c1r FSC
5c1r KASW
4c1r LDW5c KLHL5c1r FSA3c F3G
Georg Friedrich I of Germany3c3r KLHL4c2r FSC4c2r KLHL4c2r FSC4c2r KLHL4c2r FLMS4c2r FSC5c1r KLHL
5c1r FLMS
5c1r FLMS3c1r F3G
* Sovereigns, Heads of House or heirs to either appearing in the equal marriages charts in the original Blood Royal topic, excluding members of currently reigning houses
† Please see the introduction to the thread for an explanation of the relationships of Alexander II of Serbia, which can appear different in the red links to what is displayed in the chart
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Key:  
C3PCIGCIVS
Carlo III, Duke of Parma (1)Constantine I of Greece (3)Carlos IV of Spain (1)
F3GFII2SFLMS
Friedrich III of Germany (2)Ferdinando II of the Two Sicilies (2)F Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (6)
FPSCFSAFSC
Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (7)Friedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg (3)Franz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (25)
GIGH24RKJVIP
George I of Greece (1)Heinrich XXIV, Count Reuss zu Kōstritz (2)João VI of Portugal (2)
KASWKLBKLHL
Karl August, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (4)Karl Ludwig, Hereditary Prince of Baden (4)Karl Ludwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (12)
LCSGLDWLKNS
Ludwig Christian, Count of Stolberg-Gedern (2)Duke Ludwig of Württemberg (5)Ludwig Kraft, Count of Nassau-Saarbrücken (4)
LPIFMIBMIIP
Louis-Philippe I of France (4)Maximilian I Joseph of Bavaria (3)Maria II da Gloria of Portugal (2)
PIEBRoIPVGB
Pedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal (4)Roberto I, Duke of Parma (3)Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland (1)
Most connections formed:FSC (25)KLHL (12)FPSC (7)FLMS (6)LDW (5)KASW, KLB, LKNS, LPIF, PIEB (4)CIG, FSA, MIB, RoIP (3)
F3G, FII2S, H24RK, LCSG, JVIP, MIIP (2)Others (1)
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Combined statistics for kinship group 1 part I: individuals forming four or more connections
CodeNameTIIIIIICodeNameTIIIIII
FSCFranz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld326125RoIPRoberto I, Duke of Parma5-2  3
FPSCPrince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha1214  7VGBVictoria of Great Britain and Ireland54-  1
KLHLKarl Ludwig, 3rd Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg12--12ASCAlfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha44--
JVIPJoão VI of Portugal10-8  2F3GFriedrich III of Germany42-  2
LPIFLouis-Philippe I of France  9-5  4FII2SFerdinando II of the Two Sicilies4-2  2
FrI2SFrancesco I of the Two Sicilies  8-8-GIGGeorge I of Greece43-  1
PIEBPedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal  8-4  4IsEBIsabel I of Brazil4-4-
CIGConstantine I of Greece  63-  3KASWKarl August, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach4--  4
FLMSFriedrich Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin  6--  6KLBKarl Ludwig, Hereditary Prince of Baden4--  4
LDWDuke Ludwig of Württemberg  5--  5LKNSLudwig Kraft, Count of Nassau-Saarbrücken4--  4
Titles in pretence appear in blue      
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Combined statistics for kinship group 1 part II: individuals forming under four connections
CodeNameTIIIIIICodeNameTIIIIII
FSAFriedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg 3-- 3VEIIIVittorio Emanuele II of Italy 2-2-
HVIFHenri VI of France 3-3-WIIGWilhelm II of Germany 22--
J3FJean III of France 3-3-AI2SAlfonso I of the Two Sicilies 1-1-
MIBMaximilian I Joseph of Bavaria 3-- 3AKLArchduke Karl Ludwig of Austria 1-1-
MIPMiguel I of Portugal 3-3-C3SCarlos III of Spain 1-1-
P3EBPedro III of Brazil 3-3-CIVSCarlos IV of Spain 1-- 1
C3PCarlo III, Duke of Parma 2-1 1EA3HErnst August III of Hanover 11--
EAIIHErnst August II of Hanover 22--EFAEmanuele Filiberto, D of Aosta 1-1-
H24RKHeinrich XXIV, Count Reuss zu Kōstritz 2-- 2KIAKarl I of Austria-Hungary 1-1-
LCSGLudwig Christian, C of Stolberg-Gedern 2-- 2KIRKyril I of Russia 11--
LIIELeopold II, Holy Roman Emperor 2-2-PMEPrincess Marie of Edinburgh 11--
MIIPMaria II da Gloria of Portugal 2-- 2      
Titles in pretence appear in blue      
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Part two of the thread follows. There are some very striking contrasts in the relationships and statistics of the first group, kinship group 1, and the second, kinship group 2, the children of members of the first group. I have some thoughts on why this should be, and it is not all explainable from the simple fact of this second group all being children of equal marriages, some quite unexpected patterns emerge.

But I will leave analysis of that to a later date, and for now just present the charts, keys and statistics tables. Some commentary is required on the charts in addition to the points made in the thread introduction, though not as much as there might have been since adding a generation has happily removed the effects of the troublesome paternal ancestry of Alexander II of Serbia in the relationships shown for his son Prince Peter of Serbia, who here I am calling Crown Prince Peter.  The only residue of this is his second cousinhood with Princess Margareta of Romania being shown as through Princess Marie of Edinburgh rather than Ferdinand I of Romania, her husband.

It is not Crown Princess Margareta as I do not regard her as legally in line to Romania at all, never mind first. I have no doubt that were Romania a kingdom in being the succession would have been altered in a constitutional fashion to accommodate her and her sisters, but it isn’t, and with all respect to King Michael he does not have the power to change the succession by fiat. As this is not a fantasy, I have taken no account of the probable change had the monarchy continued.

Similarly, although I have used Prince Jean of Orléans, duc de Vendôme, in the charts I have not called him Dauphin of Viennois. The mental disability of Prince Jean’s elder brother Prince François has led to Prince Jean being declared first in line by his father, but he again has no power to do so. Were Henri VII in actual fact King of France and Navarre then a means would no doubt have been found to alter the succession, which there is clearly more than sufficient reason to do, but he is not.

The other person appearing who is not an heir is Princess Alexandra of Hanover. Her half-brother who is the actual heir was from an unequal marriage. It has to be acknowledged that although undoubtedly equal Princess Caroline of Monaco contributes nothing to her daughter’s nearest relationships with the rest of the group. Princes Alexandra is in fact descended from Karl Friedrich, Grand Duke of Baden, his son Karl Ludwig, Hereditary Prince of Baden and his son Karl, Grand Duke of Baden only through her mother, and also has descent from Claude de Beauharnais only through her. These are all familiar nearest ancestors in other threads, and in fact the second of them features as KLB in this one, but none of Princess Alexandra’s nearest relationships shown here are through any of these individuals. And, it might be mentioned, only one (5c1r GIWP to Carlo V of Parma) is through her likewise equal paternal grandmother.

The charts are again three in number, and again split Protestant and Orthodox with each other, Catholics likewise, and then the two sets together. Some very surprising and interesting relationships are formed and the pattern of connecting ancestors, seen in the chart keys and statistical summaries and also in two tables of combined statistics that come after, is unlike anything seen in any other thread in this section. To further point this up there is a third statistics table finishing off the thread, which covers the heirs of the monarchs reigning at the accession of King Philippe of Belgium.

The chart this is drawn from can be found at the top of page 3 of the 1952 to the present day thread. There was no need to split the chart so combined statistics were not previously done. I have though created a table with the statistics split in the same way as in the two tables above it, so that column I shows the number of connections formed between Protestants by a particular ancestor, column II between Catholics, and column III between the two groups. The contrast with the preceding tables could not be more stark, and again I have some thoughts on why this should be (apart from the obvious, that only two of the heirs concerned are children of equal marriages) that I will save for a later time.

Although some statistical analysis remains to be done, which will probably go into a revised version of this note, posting these charts, keys and tables completes the thread so far as planned new postings are concerned, so while previously locked it is now open for replies. Not that I expect any, but they nevertheless would be welcomed, whether they are questions, comment, criticism, or corrections – the last as always would be especially appreciated. Although there hasn’t been a great deal of interest shown in the thread so far, I hope that some people at least will find enjoyment in exploring the charts and other materials that follow and indeed those that precede this note.

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I: Relationships between the Protestant and Orthodox members of kinship group 2*
Monarch/HoH/HeirSimeon IIPss MargaretaCP PaulHGD BernhardCP PeterTse GeorgePss AlexandraCP Carl Friedrich
Simeon II of Bulgaria2c RoIP4c2r FSC3c1r FII2S2c2r NIM4c2r FSC4c3r FSC4c2r FrI2S
Princess Margareta of Romania2c RoIP2c CIG3c GIG2c1r CIG
2c1r PME
3c ASC3c1r CIXD
3c1r F3G
3c1r ASC
Paul, Crown Prince of Greece4c2r FSC2c CIG3c EAIIH
3c GIG
2c1r CIG3c WIIG2c EA3H3c1r FF3MS
3c1r WIIG
Bernhard, HGD of Baden3c1r FII2S3c GIG3c EAIIH
3c GIG
3c1r GIG4c1r VGB3c EAIIH4c1r LIIT
Peter, Crown Prince of Serbia2c2r NIM2c1r CIG
2c1r PME
2c1r CIG3c1r GIG3c1r ASC4c F3G4c ASC
George, Tsesarevich of Russia4c2r FSC3c ASC3c WIIG4c1r VGB3c1r ASC3c WIIG2c1r KIR
Princess Alexandra of Hanover4c3r FSC3c1r CIXD
3c1r F3G
2c EA3H3c EAIIH4c F3G3c WIIG3c1r WIIG
Carl Friedrich,  German Crown Prince4c2r FrI2S3c1r ASC3c1r FF3MS
3c1r WIIG
4c1r LIIT4c ASC2c1r KIR3c1r WIIG
* Heirs or other children of kinship group 1      
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Key:  
ASCCIGCIXD
Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (4)Constantine I of Greece (3)Christian IX of Denmark (1)
EA3HEAIIHF3G
Ernst August III of Hanover (1)Ernst August II of Hanover (2)Friedrich III of Germany (2)
FF3MSFII2SFrI2S
Friedrich Franz III, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1)Ferdinando II of the Two Sicilies (1)Francesco I of the Two Sicilies (1)
FSCGIGKIR
Franz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (3)George I of Greece (3)Kyril I of Russia (1)
LIITNIMPME
Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany (1)Nikola I of Montenegro (1)Princess Marie of Edinburgh (1)
RoIPVGBWIIG
Roberto I, Duke of Parma (1)Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland (1)Wilhelm II of Germany (4)
Most connections formed:ASC, WIIG (4)CIG, FSC, GIG (3)EAIIH, F3G (2)Others (1)
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II: Relationships between the Catholic members of kinship group 2*
HoH/HeirLuiz IDuarte IIIPedro VKarl II/VP JeanCarlo VHP AmedeoPI J-ChrP WilhelmP Umberto
Luiz I of Brazil2c IsEB2c AI2S
2c IsEB
3c1r FII2S2c1r AI2S
2c1r IsEB
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r JVIP
3c2r FII2S2c1r AI2S2c2r AI2S
2c2r IsEB
2c2r IsEB
Duarte III of Portugal2c IsEB1c P3EB2c1r MIP1c1r P3EB2c1r MIP2c2r MIP4c1r FrI2S
4c1r LPIF
1c2r P3EB1c2r PIEB
Pedro V of Brazil2c AI2S
2c IsEB
1c P3EB3c1r FII2S1c1r P3EB4c1r FLMS
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r JVIP
2c2r P7F2c1r AI2S1c2r P3EB1c2r PIEB
Karl II/V of Austria-Hungary3c1r FII2S2c1r MIP3c1r FII2S3c AKL2c RoIP1c1r KIA4c FII2S3c1r AKL5c1r FPSC
5c1r FrI2S
5c1r PIEB
5c1r VSC
Prince Jean of Orléans2c1r AI2S
2c1r IsEB
1c1r P3EB1c1r P3EB3c AKL3c1r C3P2c1r J3F3c AI2S1c1r HVIF
1c1r PIW
1c1r HVIF
Carlo V, Duke of Parma4c1r FrI2S
4c1r JVIP
2c1r MIP4c1r FLMS
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r JVIP
2c RoIP3c1r C3P2c1r RoIP5c FrI2S3c2r C3P5c1r FLMS
5c1r FrI2s
5c1r FW3P
5c1r PIR
Amedeo, Hereditary Prince of Modena3c2r FII2S2c2r MIP2c2r P7F1c1r KIA2c1r J3F2c1r RoIP4c1r FII2S
4c1r L1B
4c1r VEIII
3c J3F3c EFA
3c J3F
Jean-Christophe, Prince Imperial of France2c1r AI2S4c1r FrI2S
4c1r LPIF
2c1r AI2S4c FII2S3c AI2S5c FrI2S4c1r FII2S
4c1r L1B
4c1r VEIII
3c1r AI2S4c1r VEIII
Prince Wilhelm of Württemberg2c2r AI2S
2c2r IsEB
1c2r P3EB1c2r P3EB3c1r AKL1c1r HVIF
1c1r PIW
3c2r C3P3c J3F3c1r AI2S2c HVIF
Prince Umberto of Savoy2c2r IsEB1c2r PIEB1c2r PIEB5c1r FPSC
5c1r FrI2S
5c1r PIEB
5c1r VSC
1c1r HVIF5c1r FLMS
5c1r FrI2s
5c1r FW3P
5c1r PIR
3c EFA
3c J3F
4c1r VEIII2c HVIF
* Heirs or other children of kinship group 1
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Key:  
AI2SAKLC3P
Alfonso I of the Two Sicilies (7)Archduke Karl Ludwig of Austria (2)Carlo III, Duke of Parma (2)
EFAFII2SFLMS
Emanuele Filiberto, Duke of Aosta (1)Ferdinando II of the Two Sicilies (5)Friedrich Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (2)
FPSCFrI2SFW3P
Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1)Francesco I of the Two Sicilies (6)Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia (1)
HVIFIsEBJ3F
Henri VI of France (3)Isabel I of Brazil (5)Jean III of France (3)
JVIPKIAL1B
João VI of Portugal (2)Karl I/IV of Austria-Hungary (1)Léopold I of Belgium (1)
LPIFMIPP3EB
Louis-Philippe I of France (1)Miguel I of Portugal (3)Pedro III of Brazil (5)
P7FPIEBPIR
Philippe VII of France (1)Pedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal (3)Paul I Petrovitch of Russia (1)
PIWRoIPVEIII
Philipp I of Württemberg (1)Roberto I, Duke of Parma (2)Vittorio Emanuele II of Italy (2)
VSC  
Princess Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (1)  
Most connections formed:AI2S (7)FrI2S (6)FII2S, IsEB, P3EB (5)HVIF, J3F, MIP, PIEB (3)AKL, C3P, FLMS, JVIP, RoIP, VEIII (2)Others (1)
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III: Relationships between the Protestant and Orthodox and the Catholic members of kinship group 2*
Monarch/HoH/HeirLuiz I
of Brazil
Duarte III
of Portugal
Pedro V
of Brazil
Karl II/V
of AH
P Jean
of Orléans
Carlo V
of Parma
P Amedeo
HP of Modena
P J-Chr
PI of France
P Wilhelm
of Württemberg
P Umberto
of Savoy
Simeon II of Bulgaria3c FII2S3c1r FPSC
3c1r LPIF
3c FII2S2c RoIP3c1r C3P
3c1r FII2S
2c RoIP2c1r RoIP3c1r FII2S
3c1r VEIII
3c2r C3P
3c2r FII2S
3c2r VEIII
Princess Margareta of Romania4c1r FPSC
4c1r FrI2S
4c1r JVIP
4c1r LPIF
4c1r PIEB
2c1r MIP3c1r FPF2c RoIP3c RPO2c RoIP2c1r RoIP5c FrI2S
5c LPIF
3c1r RPO2c1r CIG
Paul, Crown Prince of Greece5c1r FNW
5c1r FSA
5c1r FSC
5c1r LDW
4c2r KLHL4c2r FLMS4c1r EHL5c1r FLMS3c1r FFIIMS3c1r F8D5c1r FSC
5c1r LDW
5c FPN2c1r CIG
Bernhard, Hereditary Grand Duke of Baden3c1r AEA
3c1r FII2S
3c1r RDC
4c1r FrI2S3c1r FII2S4c AFA
4c FII2S
4c AFA
4c FII2S
4c LIIT
5C FrI2S4c1r AFA
4c1r CIXD
4c1r FII2S
4c1r MJB
4c FII2S4c1r AFA
4c1r FII2S
4c1r LIIT
3c GIG
Peter, Crown Prince of Serbia2c1r AI2S
2c1r IsEB
1c1r P3EBN PIVEB4c FII2S2c P3EB5c FLMS
5c FrI2S
3c1r P7F3c AI2S2c1r P3EB2c1r P3EB
George, Tsesarevich of Russia5c1r FSA
5c1r FSC
4c2r KLHL4c2r FLMS4c1r BIISM
4c1r EHL
5c1r FLMS3c1r FFIIMS6c FLMS
6c FSC
6c KAHS
6c KLHL
5c1r FSC5c1r GIIWP4c F3G
Princess Alexandra of Hanover5c1r FSA
5c1r LDW
4c2r KLHL5c2r FSC
5c2r KASW
4c1r EHL6c FSA5c1r FW3P
5c1r GIWP
5c1r KLHL
4c1r CIXD5c1r LDW6c FW3P4c CIXD
4c F3G
Carl Friedrich, German Crown Prince4c1r LIIT4c2r FKWT
4c2r FrI2S
4c2r KLWR
4c1r LIIT4c2r EHL4c1r LIIT3c2r FFIIMS6c FrI2S
6c KLWR
5c LIIT5c LIIT4c1r F3G
* Heirs or other children of kinship group 1
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Key:  
AEAAFAAI2S
Archduchess Elisabeth of Austria (1)Archduke Franz of Austria (4)Alfonso I of the Two Sicilies (2)
BIISMC3PCIG
Bernhard II, Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (1)Carlo III, Duke of Parma (2)Constantine I of Greece (2)
CIXDEHLF3G
Christian IX of Denmark (3)Ernst, Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (4)Friedrich III of Germany (3)
F8DFFIIMSFII2S
Frederik VIII of Denmark (1)F Franz II, GD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (3)Ferdinando II of the Two Sicilies (13)
FKWTFLMSFNW
Franz, Count Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau (1)F Ludwig, HGD of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (6)Friedrich Wilhelm, Prince of Nassau-Weilburg (1)
FPFFPNFPSC
Ferdinand, Prince Royal of France (1)Prince Frederik of the Netherlands (1)Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (2)
FrI2SFSAFSC
Francesco I of the Two Sicilies (7)Friedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg (4)Franz, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (6)
FW3PGIGGIIWP
Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia (2)George I of Greece (1)Georg II, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont (1)
GIWPIsEBJVIP
Georg I, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont (1)Isabel I of Brazil (1)João VI of Portugal (1)
KAHSKASWKLHL
Karl Anton, Prince of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1)Karl August, GD of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1)Karl Ludwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (5)
KLWRLDWLIIT
Karl, Prince of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg (2)Duke Ludwig of Württemberg (4)Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany (7)
LPIFMIPMJB
Louis-Philippe I of France (3)Miguel I of Portugal (1)Maximilian Joseph, Duke in Bavaria (1)
P3EBP7FPIEB
Pedro III of Brazil (4)Philippe VII of France (1)Pedro I of Brazil, IV of Portugal (1)
PIVEBRDCRoIP
Pedro IV of Brazil (1)Rudolf, 11th Duke of Croÿ (1)Roberto I, Duke of Parma (6)
RPOVEIII 
Prince Robert of Orléans, duc de Chartres (2)Vittorio Emanuele II of Italy (2) 
Most connections formed:FII2S (13)FrI2S, LIIT (7)FLMS, FSC, RoIP (6)KLHL (5)AFA, EHL, FSA, LDW, P3EB (4)CIXD, F3G, FFIIMS, LPIF (3)
AI2S, C3P, CIG, FPSC, FW3P, KLWR, RPO, VEIII (2)Others (1)
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