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KYMonarchist

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21805378

And boy do I ever agree with them! Actually, I'm sure everybody here would love that.
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Yes shorter elections would be nice. In fact an election that lasts zero days would be fantastic: The old leader dies and then his/her well trained offspring/sibling/niece etc takes over immediately.

Now that would be an interesting system! What to call it though?

Anyway US electioneering is a big business now. It used to be seasonal but now many political operatives/consultants are employed full-time, the media, both news and opinion folks, have guaranteed story lines, and political junkies get a constant fix and that desire completes the loop.

So it's not going to change anytime soon.  
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I'm finished with watching the news; I learn things that trickle out from posts on this list.   Also there are elections to the local school board that I hear about.   I take some interest in that.  
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I take an interest in all the elections when I'm asked my opinion.

It seems to matter, at least somewhat, at the county level....

(And once in awhile, the I'm glad I voted at the state/national level.  10 per county not voting of Bush in 2000, would have led to Al Gore being president)


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Shortening the election cycle would be grand! It'd be nice to have more than 2 years out of every 4 off from having to be bombarded by the constant inanity of it all. Even back when I voted and cared, the sheer length from the lead up to the primaries to the actual election was just too much.
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Unfortunately, as long as you have fixed election dates, there's little you can do. In fact, Canada is retrogressing toward the American model. With fixed election dates, the incumbents look to re-election, not the job they were elected to do.
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Does the UK not have fixed dates?
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No. The maximum life of a Parliament is five years, and at the end of that time Parliament is automatically dissolved and fresh elections triggered. However, it is very rare for a Parliament to last that long, four years to four and a half is more like it. Generally speaking when the Government senses that the mood of the electorate is such that it has a chance of a fresh term, the Prime Minister will go to the Queen and ask for Parliament to be dissolved, which she can do at any time on ministerial advice. Elections must then be held within a certain period, 40 days or something like that. If a Parliament lasts the full five years or near to it is is usually because the Government knows it is doomed once the electorate get their hands on it.

When the present coalition came in there was talk of changing to a fixed term, but happily I have heard no more of it, I think that would be a terrible idea. Apart from it diminishing the position of the monarch and strengthening that of Parliament which is more than strong enough already, both bad ideas, the mere fact that no one knows when the election is going to be, and then when the date is announced it is always relatively soon, keeps campaigns mercifully short. With fixed terms they would start months before. A Parliament can extend its life, it just needs to pass legislation to do so, but this has not happened except in wartime. The Lords has absolute veto power over any such proposal, as opposed to the delaying power it has over other non-budgetary legislation, and also this is one case where for the monarch to veto might be considered acceptable. In all it might seem a messy system, but I think it works well enough, and far better than the more straightforward one the US has.
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Peter, 

Pretty much my thoughts concerning Canada as well. However as we learned in 2008, the 'fixed election date' does not prevent the PM from requesting the Governor General to dissolve Parliament and drop the writ for a general election. In fact, the Act itself says,' Nothing in this section affects the powers of the Governor General, including the power to dissolve Parliament at the Governor General's discretion,' which, of course, is done only on ministerial advice or on the fall of a government. 

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Instead of shorting the 'run-up' period, why not shorten the 'length of session'.  I mean you know, say 60 days out of the two years spent 'in session', and those split into two 30 day sessions, one shortly after the election is finalized, the other half way to the new election. 
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Sorry Peter, the UK does have fixed 5 year terms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

Just another piece of constitutional tinkering they slip through with no democratic mandate...

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