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DavidV

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Gerald Warner tends to take a less-than-flattering view of both Prussia and Piedmont in their respective unification projects.
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I am pretty much indifferent to Bavarian secession from Germany as long as the Wittelsbachs are restored to the Bavarian throne. But if Bavaria actually secedes, I hope the city of Coburg, the capital of the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, will be detached from it and stays part of Germany.
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An independent constitutional monarchy in Bavaria would be awesome. However, I seriously doubt it would ever happen, this whole thing just reeks of fantasy. I guess some people are more optimistic than me.
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As far as I stand, I have no desire to see Germany start to Balkanise. It wouldn't do either Bavaria or the rest of the German states any good, politically, socially or economically. Plus, with Catalan, Scottish and insert-angry-cultural-seperatists-here getting their knickers in a twist, it wouldn't set a particularly healthy precedent. Rather, it'd probably be better to simply call for the German constitution to be altered, so that monarchies could exist within the broader frame-work of the Federal Republic.

After all, I'm pretty certain republican free cities existed within the German Empire. Why couldn't a monarchy exist under a republic?
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As far as I stand, I have no desire to see Germany start to Balkanise. It wouldn't do either Bavaria or the rest of the German states any good, politically, socially or economically. Plus, with Catalan, Scottish and insert-angry-cultural-seperatists-here getting their knickers in a twist, it wouldn't set a particularly healthy precedent. Rather, it'd probably be better to simply call for the German constitution to be altered, so that monarchies could exist within the broader frame-work of the Federal Republic.

After all, I'm pretty certain republican free cities existed within the German Empire. Why couldn't a monarchy exist under a republic?


This. Bavarians voted against the 1949 constitution for that reason precisely. And the current borders of Germany would be acceptable to those who espoused the Kleindeutschland plan.
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I am with Tolgron on this. On a technical point, Coburg was not the capital of the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, because strictly speaking there wasn't such an entity. There was a duchy of Saxe-Coburg, with Coburg as its capital, and one of Saxe-Gotha, the capital of which was Gotha. From 1825 on they had the same Duke, who was known for convenience as the Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, but they were never merged, which is why they were not known as Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
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