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Perhaps his failure was simply because Scripture cannot be broken....

(That or someone else would have brought in the crosses - perhaps a Carthaginian that got the idea on a road trip....)


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Q: What do you get when you rub two sticks together?
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I Admit Hannibal was truly great, but he was no Alexander

He reportedly flattered the Roman general Scipio Africanus by saying just that. Had he [Hannibal] won, he would indeed have been greater than Alexander. 


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A map of Europe before WWI, except Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, and European Turkey are in a revived Byzantine Empire (no offense, any Turkish members!), and the Middle East in a revived Ottoman Empire, with a moderate Sultan on the throne.  Also, Austria-Hungary takes the U.S. of Greater Austria plan, with Latin as its official language.  Last, Russia gives an early British Dominion type status to what became the Breakaway republics.


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A map of Europe before WWI, except Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, and European Turkey are in a revived Byzantine Empire (no offense, any Turkish members!), and the Middle East in a revived Ottoman Empire, with a moderate Sultan on the throne.  Also, Austria-Hungary takes the U.S. of Greater Austria plan, with Latin as its official language.  Last, Russia gives an early British Dominion type status to what became the Breakaway republics.


European turkey in a revived Roman empire? That is hardly a fraction of their rightful land. The turks have no business in anatolia, unless they want to be ruled by His Majesty Nicholas, equal to the Apostles.

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A map of Europe before WWI, except Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, and European Turkey are in a revived Byzantine Empire (no offense, any Turkish members!), and the Middle East in a revived Ottoman Empire, with a moderate Sultan on the throne.  Also, Austria-Hungary takes the U.S. of Greater Austria plan, with Latin as its official language.  Last, Russia gives an early British Dominion type status to what became the Breakaway republics.


European turkey in a revived Roman empire? That is hardly a fraction of their rightful land. The turks have no business in anatolia, unless they want to be ruled by His Majesty Nicholas, equal to the Apostles.

The Turkish people are staying in Anatolia, thank you very much. Any advocacy of removing them is tantamount to advocacy of ethnic cleansing. Not to mention statements like that only strengthen the anti-Ottoman Kemalists forming the power centers in Turkey.

Alos, just who in the world is this Nicholas supposed to be? Santa Claus?

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The Autocrat of all the Russias, perhaps?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Romanov,_Prince_of_Russia , the rightful heir to the Byzantine throne. If the Turks are fine with living under a Byzantine emperor then by all means they are welcome to stay in anatolia.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Romanov,_Prince_of_Russia , the rightful heir to the Byzantine throne. If the Turks are fine with living under a Byzantine emperor then by all means they are welcome to stay in anatolia.


You're seriously promoting this republican?!?!?!?!?!?

And what happened to the Ottoman Sultan, who last I checked has more claim to ruling over Turkey rightfully than any Byzantine heir?

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And what happened to the Ottoman Sultan, who last I checked has more claim to ruling over Turkey rightfully than any Byzantine heir?

Not when you consider Il Fatih conquest of Constantinople as a usurpation

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And what happened to the Ottoman Sultan, who last I checked has more claim to ruling over Turkey rightfully than any Byzantine heir?

Not when you consider Il Fatih conquest of Constantinople as a usurpation
 
I agree. Every inch of Ottoman territory in Turkey was conquered from the Byzantine Emperor.
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And what happened to the Ottoman Sultan, who last I checked has more claim to ruling over Turkey rightfully than any Byzantine heir?

Not when you consider Il Fatih conquest of Constantinople as a usurpation

Then I take it you do not support Her Majesty as Queen?


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How would that follow?
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And what happened to the Ottoman Sultan, who last I checked has more claim to ruling over Turkey rightfully than any Byzantine heir?

Not when you consider Il Fatih conquest of Constantinople as a usurpation
 
I agree. Every inch of Ottoman territory in Turkey was conquered from the Byzantine Emperor.

Every inch of Her Majesty's Dominion of Canada was conquered from the First Nations chiefs.


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How would that follow?

He might be a Jacobite or support Harold II's heir (is their one?).


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No, it's different, because HM the Queen is Christian.  It's the conquest of an ancient Christian city by Islam that Christian reactionary monarchists find unacceptable, not simply a change of dynasty.  I realize you've renounced Christianity, but you can't expect everyone else to follow suit.
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