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The critics of Monarchy would do themselves a favor by looking at the United Arab Emirates.  Through a strong and forward-looking Monarchy, this nation has emerged as a world-class state.  Business and tourism are booming in what a few decades ago was a backward desert outpost.

 

It could be argued that this is all the result of massive oil wealth.  That has certainly helped, however, we all know of oil-rich nations that have blown their money reserves due to poor planning, greed and shortsighted decisions.

 

Certainly, the many Monarchies of the Middle East, on the whole, show how a vital, strong monarchical system of government can remain the government structure of choice even in the 21st Century.

 

I wonder how such nations as the United Arab Emirates would be progressing under a "democratic" system of government.

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Not very well, I bet.


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Even the strongest advocates of 'Democracy' and 'Republic' will admit that for those systems to have a chance of survival, the electorate must be informed, engaged, and committed to the results.  Their are many countries including the UAE where these conditions don't exist, often by the will of the people.  To quote - very losely - HM King James I & VI,  'the buisness of the people is not Government, that is the business of Kings'.  Many people the world over, if secure in the persons and property would gladly relenquich the cares and concerns of governance to those 'born to it' and 'educated for that purpose', the Monarchs and the Nobles.  -- Or thats my impression any way.

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I think we all must understand that not all democrats and republicans would condemn a constitutional monarchy as it is a form of democracy.

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I think we all must understand that not all democrats and republicans would condemn a constitutional monarchy as it is a form of democracy.



Depends on how the terms are defined.  The word "republican" as used in the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia, does indicate opposition to constitutional monarchy.
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I'm talking literal.  People for democracy and republics.



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I'm talking literal.  People for democracy and republics.

 
Then, with all due respect, you are wrong. "People for republics" by the logic of the English language, must oppose monarchy no matter whether absolute or  constitutional.
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    I would think that democrats and republicans would more like a constitutional monarchy than an absolute monarchy.  And I'm sure there are democrats in England and the Netherlands that love their queen.  Just because I'm a monarchist does not mean I don't respect other forms of government.  



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    I would think that democrats and republicans would more like a constitutional monarchy than an absolute monarchy.  And I'm sure there are democrats in England and the Netherlands that love their queen.  Just because I'm a monarchist does not mean I don't respect other forms of government.  

 
I agree that democrats would prefer a constitutional monarchy over an absolute one, but that doesn't change the fact that republicans, by being republicans, oppose monarchy of any sort. This is why there are republican groups in Britain and Australia (that I know of. They may also exist in other monarchies,) dedicated to the overthrow of HM the Queen and her replacement by a "President".
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It is a comment on the 'Limited Constitutional Monarchy' that those persons aren't arrested for Treason....

Hopefully Her Majesty would exercise the 'quiesent power' to deny the Royal Assent to such a travesty.


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