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DavidV

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What we need in this world are leaders who can fix a broken global system and failed states. If America won't, then Britain and the Commonwealth should step to the fore because of Britain's historical global role.

In any case, Bolton, Gingrich and Huckabee are all supporters of Brexit. They could help Britain greatly in that regard.
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Security of state? I suspect the nefarious work of a spellchecker. I was surprised to find that Henry Kissinger is still alive, but at 93 he's probably not all that realistic a choice.
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Well, it was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion.

What America needs is a realist foreign policy, after the parallel blunders of the neocons, on the one hand, and Obama, on the other. I'm sure just about anyone Trump will choose will be sympathetic to Brexit.
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Actually Rudi Giuliani currently seems to be most under discussion as Secretary of State. Doesn't mean a lot at this stage, of course. At 72 he's a mere spring chicken. Still, it opens an intriguing possibility. Will America's first ever septuagenarian President (at inauguration) head its first ever septuagenarian Cabinet? It'd almost be like the College of Cardinals, except that I expect a woman or two will be allowed in.
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Giuliani would be more likely attorney-general, under him the crime rate declined in New York as it did nationally in the 90s and 2000s, although if you believe what some say recent events must make you wonder if there has been a reversal of that tend after all.
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If Trump wants a woman for Secretary of State, maybe he could tap Condoleeza Rice for another go-round. Politically they ought to get along well, though she's barely in her sixties now.  Or if he wants to be bi-partisan, maybe he could  drag old Maddie Albright out of retirement and dust her off, she'd fit right in with the geriatric crowd. Though it probably doesn't help her chances that she recently said something to the effect that "there's a special place in hell" for women who don't support Hillary Clinton.

If he appoints Giuliani and Gingrich to the Cabinet, the wives & ex-wives will be able to form their own softball  team.

They say that he's considering Elizabeth Warren for head of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. (I suppose only the forum-members from Massachusetts will get that joke, though !).



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America’s silent majority delivered a resounding victory for the “deplorables” by electing Donald Trump president. Yet Trump supporters have been vilified and physically assaulted following the election result. Left mobs have threatened to assassinate the president-elect and called for the death of “white people”.


This is ridiculous.  Trump did not win a majority of the vote at all.  Hillary Clinton won the popular vote quite handily.  He won the Electoral College vote.  It is not the only time this has happened, the most recent previous case was George W. Bush being elected president even though Al Gore won the popular vote.  Almost half the electorate did not vote at all, so how Trump can claim "America's silent majority" is beyond me.  I have seen quite a few protests against Trump but have not heard a single call for the death of "white people".  In fact the overwhelming majority of people participating in these protests are white people.

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If Trump wants a woman for Secretary of State, maybe he could tap Condoleeza Rice for another go-round. Politically they ought to get along well, though she's barely in her sixties now. 


Condoleza Rice is firmly in the Bush camp of the Republican Party.  It is extremely unlikely that she would work for Trump.  Giuliani has expressed his interest in the Secretary of State role rather than Attorney General which puts him on a collision course with Bolton who was also being eyed for the post.  You will recall that some of Colin Powell's emails were leaked during the campaign, and among them were messages in which he and Condoleza Rice criticized Hillary for her hubris, but ruled Trump as an unacceptable choice.

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Giuliani would be more likely attorney-general, under him the crime rate declined in New York as it did nationally in the 90s and 2000s, although if you believe what some say recent events must make you wonder if there has been a reversal of that tend after all.


Giuliani has openly talked about his desire to be Secretary of State and has shown little interest in the Attorney General post.  This puts him in competition with Bolton for the post.  Republican congressional leaders are not enamored of either choice, but Bolton has burned many bridges there and so I think Giuliani has a better chance.  I'm not sure why Gingrich's name has been dropped from consideration for the State Department.  He would have been a far better man in that post than either Giuliani and Bolton.  Guiliani has been busy putting himself forward for the post, downplaying previous promises to scrap the Iran Nuclear deal and focusing more on terrorism and ISIS.  He also seems to believe that the U.S. needs to threaten Russia more with military action.  

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/rudy-giuliani-foreign-policy-discussion-secretary-of-state/index.html

As to the crime drop in New York, the ramping-up of Police numbers began under David Dinkins (an otherwise rather hapless mayor) and continued under Giuliani, so he deserves some but not all of the credit for the drop in crime rates.  New York has actually grown economically at a much faster rate and crime has been lowered much further since he left office, and is now probably the safest big city in the United States mostly thanks mostly to Mayor Bloomberg than anyone else.  Bloomberg was (and remains) by far the best Mayor we've had in decades bar none.  Giuliani's "Stop and Frisk" policy did more to polarize racial tensions in this city and worsen community/police relations than any other single policy in this city.  The end of that policy has improved things immensely.

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Here is a good listing of senior White Hose and Cabinet positions and possible candidates for those positions.  

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2016/11/politics/new-cabinet/


It should be noted that the Trump campaign was taken aback when they learned from the President that they would have to replace virtually the entire West Wing staff at the White House.  They apparently did not realize that was the case.  That means they need to come up with 4000 staff members, preferably before January 20th, for a smooth transition to happen.  Although apparently President Obama has agreed to spend more time in guiding his successor through this arduous process than is typical for outgoing Presidents, I am not confident this is going to get done in the amount of time they have.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-trump-help-transition

President Obama is trying to reassure European allies of President-Elect Trump's continued commitment to NATO in the face of doubts based on his past statements.

https://www.rt.com/news/366999-obama-europe-trump-allies/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37981572

President-Elect Trump's appointment of his three elder children to his transition team, while they are slated to take over his business interests once he is sworn in, along with his reported request that they be given access to top-secret information, is raising questions about conflict of interest issues.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-administration-organization-conflict-of-interest-6dd5259f3378#.jt7pd49tq

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/14/trump-wants-secret-clearance-for-kids.html

The Trump team is denying that he asked for top-secret access for his children.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/15/president-electdonald-trump-security-clearance-children/93856438/

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Oh and there is this possibility too...

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/sarah-palin-could-soon-be-in-charge-of-the-nations-natural-resources/

Dr. Ben Carson has ruled himself out of serving on a Trump cabinet.

https://www.yahoo.com/style/ivanka-trump-wore-a-10k-bracelet-from-her-own-label-on-60-minutes-and-social-media-is-erupting-174930008.html

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Bolton calling for NATO and UN reforms (I'd scrap the UN altogether):
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/15/john-bolton-calls-major-nato-and-un-reforms/
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Senator Rand Paul has stated he will oppose confirming either Bolton or Giuliani as Secretary of State as both remain supporters of the Iraq war which the President-Elect opposes, and also advocate bombing Iran.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/15/sen-rand-paul-says-neither-giuliani-nor-bolton-would-get-his-vote-for-secretary-of-state/

Trump might find that Congress (particularly the Senate) may not be such a friendly place with the Republican Party in control

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/republican-senate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

The Democratic opposition in Congress seems to be calculating that they may end up siding with the new President against his own party in the legislature in some instances.  This could be very interesting.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-senate-democrats-231256

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I don't think it means much that Clinton won the popular vote, amd only by a fraction of a percent. Not only is that not the US system (and there is something to be said for the voice the electoral college gives to regional America), but it wasn't the campaign they were fighting. Both sides were focused on winning the electoral college, not the popular vote. They would have campaigned quite differently if they were trying to win the popular vote - how much time did Trump spend in LA or Hillary in Alabama?

Besides, if we are looking to other measures than the actual system, why stick with the popular vote. Why not consider the proportional representation. Okay, this is less clear than the popular vote, but if you make the reasonable assumption that in the end considerably more Libertarian voters would have preferred Trump to Hillary; then, add in McMullin and the Constitution Party; subtract the Greens; and add this figure to Trump's vote, and we get a reasonable speculation he would have been the preference of more voters than her.

Rand Paul might be good in a foreign policy role. It would be better to keep Kerry on than appoint Bolton. If they're appointing those in their 70s or 80s, they should appoint Pat Buchanan. I'd scrap NATO before the UN. I can't see what role it plays today, except antagonise Russia by foolishly expanding right to its borders. America needs allies and a role in the world, but it doesn't need to stamp its authority in all corners of the globe, or allies that bring it little but trouble. If Bolton is appointed, he will no doubt start planning the march on Moscow (I hope he takes the winter into account! They never do), which should slot in somewhere between the march on Tehran and invasion of Beijing.
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Wessexman manages to be pretentious and hyperbolic at the same time, which is an achievement for someone who thinks he's in some kind of mystical spiritual trance while waxing poetic about being some kind of high-minded deep-thinking special enlightened traditional soul. Then again I'd do my best to ignore the person. Ha ha.
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I don't think it means much that Clinton won the popular vote, amd only by a fraction of a percent. Not only is that not the US system (and there is something to be said for the voice the electoral college gives to regional America), but it wasn't the campaign they were fighting. Both sides were focused on winning the electoral college, not the popular vote. They would have campaigned quite differently if they were trying to win the popular vote - how much time did Trump spend in LA or Hillary in Alabama?
 

That is true, but what I was arguing against was not the system as you say, but the blatantly incorrect quote from the article David cited that said that Trump won a majority of the vote, which he clearly did not.  Hillary Clinton earned 61,039,676 votes to Donald Trump's 60,371,193 according to the last numbers from the Associated press.  That's 668,483 votes more.

It does mean a great deal actually since Mr. Trump has been attacking the Electoral College system and has been voicing a preference for the popular vote system for a while.  Even after he has won the presidency he still seems to be saying that his position on the electoral college hasn't changed (although his answer to that question in his big interview on 60 Minutes was not clear). 

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Besides, if we are looking to other measures than the actual system, why stick with the popular vote. Why not consider the proportional representation. Okay, this is less clear than the popular vote, but if you make the reasonable assumption that in the end considerably more Libertarian voters would have preferred Trump to Hillary; then, add in McMullin and the Constitution Party; subtract the Greens; and add this figure to Trump's vote, and we get a reasonable speculation he would have been the preference of more voters than her.


An intriguing idea, but you are discounting that close to half the electorate failed to vote at all.  The vote among African Americans was much lower than for Obama, and that vote would probably have gone to Hillary.  There were also the many Bernie voters that stayed home but who would probably have voted for Trump only if Hell froze over, and who are now at the forefront of the protests saying he is not their president and demanding that...(not sure what they are demanding really since it's all done now).

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Rand Paul might be good in a foreign policy role. It would be better to keep Kerry on than appoint Bolton. If they're appointing those in their 70s or 80s, they should appoint Pat Buchanan. I'd scrap NATO before the UN. I can't see what role it plays today, except antagonize Russia by foolishly expanding right to its borders. America needs allies and a role in the world, but it doesn't need to stamp its authority in all corners of the globe, or allies that bring it little but trouble.


Kerry is unlikely to stay on as he is philosophically opposite to everything Trump stands for.  Bolton is anti-Moscow which will probably hurt him with Trump who wants to reset his relationship with Russia.  It is increasingly believed that Trump intends on abandoning the rather questionable "moderate" opposition in Syria that Obama and Bush had tried to hard to prop up, and allow Russia a free hand in Syria to save Assad.  I don't think Bolton would be too comfortable with that.  Buchanan is very anti-Israel, and Trump being so warm with Netenyahu, I think that's a no-go.  Senior Advisor Bannon and his friends at Brietbart might have liked that very much, but I don't think Trump will take to that at all.

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 If Bolton is appointed, he will no doubt start planning the march on Moscow (I hope he takes the winter into account! They never do), which should slot in somewhere between the march on Tehran and invasion of Beijing.


Bolton is very anti-Moscow which is why I think he is handicapped for the State Department post.  Trump is too invested in the idea of a warmer relationship with Moscow.  Bolton is too much of a hawk for Trump's policies I think, and he was just about the most unpopular senior official in international diplomatic circles.  It doesn't do your national cause much good if the people you have to deal with have a personal dislike of you.  Trump in my opinion will turn attention inward towards domestic policy and be less focused on troublesome foreign affairs.  Most foreign issues will be around trade.  He has already announced his intention to begin either re-negotiation or withdrawal from NAFTA on day one of his administration.  TPP is essentially dead as both parties in congress have said they will not even bring it up for discussion, putting a nail in that coffin, much to President Obama's regret (Hillary Clinton had come out against it as well).  Trump is a protectionist.  This will not lend itself to improved relations with trading partners who are/were once part of a trading block with the U.S.

Trump is expected to be much less involved in African affairs, which can be both a good and a bad thing for Africa.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/africa/the-conversation-trump-foreign-policy-africa/index.html

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Apparently there is more than a little turmoil in Trump's transition team, as the President-Elect huddles in Trump Tower with Vice-President-Elect Pence who is leading his transition team now.  Former Congressman Mike Rogers, a respected name in national security issues has announced he is leaving the transition team.  Democrats and others continue to evicerate the President-Elect for his appointment of Bannon as his special advsor, and the liason agreement between the transition team and the Obama administration is now void since it was signed by Governor Christie and he's been replaced by the Vice-President Elect as head of the team.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-favorite-trump-weighs-secretary-082235190.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/harry-reid-blasts-trump-bannon-on-senate-floor-224131384.html

And it looks like the Democratic Party leadership in the House is in trouble too..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/house-leadership-democrats-republicans-congress/index.html

Senator McCain is speaking up against reseting relations with Putin's Russia.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-reset/index.html

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

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