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I'm not sure whether it changed its ways or I changed my view. It still is more than capable of a sensationalist and misleading headline and tendentious argument, but has some fairly good coverage too, going into matters in some depth and presenting reasonable viewpoints. Its coverage of royal affairs is likewise mixed; its photo spreads are superb and always have been but the paper knows that a large part of its readership are female Diana devotees and Charles haters. It therefore pursues a vendetta against the Prince of Wales for their gratification, thereby undermining what would otherwise be impeccable monarchist credentials.

But there's enough good stuff that I often do link to it. Especially as while slow-loading it is free to view. The paper I truly despise nowadays is the Express, whose motto ought to be 'All the news we just made up'. Back to the Mail, in the interests of full disclosure I ought to say that for a long time I had a violent grudge against it because of a particular article, which trumpeted the alleged discovery of a 'gay gene' and offered the hope, yes hope, that in future gay babies could be aborted. It has completely changed its stance since and is perfectly positive towards gay people, apart from in the writings of its rogue columnist Richard Littlejohn, whose basic role in life is to offend. And even he wouldn't dare to go quite that far these days. So, yes you are right but I have changed my mind at least to an extent.
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It appears that the Brexit deal proposed by Mrs. May is causing a crisis.  Cabinet members are resigning in protest.  Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and Work and Pensions Secretary Esther McVey have both resigned today along with several more junior officials.  Many are saying that the deal does not honor the original intent of the Brexit referendum, and there have been calls for the Prime Minister to resign.  On the opposite end of the spectrum, the Scottish government calls the deal "dead in the water" and rejected it as well.  It is looking increasingly like there will be a chaotic "no-deal" Brexit, with a very good chance of a serious recession.  Mrs. May's future as Prime Minister and her party's hold on power hangs in the balance. Fears have sent the pound plummeting.  The Prime Minister is expected to address the nation at 5 PM today.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045627/Brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-barnier-tusk-eu-exit

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/economy/uk-economy-brexit/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/investing/pound-sterling-brexit-uk/index.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045627/Brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-barnier-tusk-eu-exit

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-46200010


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It seems quite possible that Mrs. May's Brexit deal will not be approved by parliament, but the Prime Minister is barreling through with the process.  She's counting on the fact that at this point there are no other options, and that it is impossible to give everyone what they want in a final deal. If she fails, it's going to go to the worst scenario of a chaotic "no deal Brexit" with LOTS of ugly surprises in store for everyone.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2018/nov/15/can-you-get-mays-brexit-deal-through-parliament

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1115/1011018-brexit/

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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Parliament has ruled out a "No Deal Brexit", and with no agreement on any existing or potential deal in sight, Brexit itself seems to be increasingly elusive.  Without the possibility of a "No Deal Brexit", then the E.U. now holds all the cards.  Britain and the E.U. may be stuck together... 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6803599/Fifteen-Brexiteer-ministers-threaten-QUIT-force-job.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1099796/brexit-news-eu-no-deal-commons-vote-theresa-may-deal-latest

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1099760/no-deal-brexit-vote-result-theresa-may-brexit-news-eu-negotiation-spelman

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-result-no-deal-theresa-may-amendment-conservative-mps-labour-a8821856.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/uk/brexit-luke-mcgee-analysis-thursday-intl-gbr/index.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47562995

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If Brexit is overturned or fudged, one thing is clear: the Tory party deserves to be, must be, destroyed. Luckily that seems likely. A Europhile conservative party never made sense.
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I want to see nothing less than a restoration of absolute hereditary monarchy.   No more Tories or any other party.   

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The Tories of his day fought for exactly that. Unfortunately, there are no Tories left in the Conservative and Unionist Party. The old 'Prag' was a ginger group in the Party who wanted to restore the Stuart Constitution, but they were effectively purged by the Thatcherite Revolution.
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True, but no need for a Tory party if there are no parties – no active parliament – Westminster will be a museum for tourists.   You either have people loyal to the Crown, or not.   Disloyalty won't be considered a legitimate position.
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Personally I'm not completely sure the strong Brexiteers made the right choice in voting against May's deal. It was a terrible deal, but it was the best we were ever likely to get from the EU. And at least we'd be officially out of the EU. That's somewhere to start. Also, except possibly as relates the internal market (which is admittedly bad enough), we'd be off the treatmill of integration, which is central to the whole project. I'm not completely sure, but given the alternative is likely going to be no Brexit at all, I'm not sure the ERG made the correct choice. Possibly we will be saved by the late hour. The vote against no deal was non-binding. Time is running out before 29th March, where we technically leave the EU, deal or no deal. I wouldn't put it past May and the remainers to just act illegally and pretend like they can ignore this, but we may get to leave anyway.
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Pathetic.  Britain doesn't even have a democracy.  You have a globalist plutocratic elite ruling your country.   At least, the sham is more apparent, but this might be forgotten after the next generation has been brainwashed by your public education and official media line.


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This should be a museum of some bygone era when people had strange notions about politics.

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We need these men to be absolute rulers.   There should be no compromise.  Technical issues impeding this should be swept away as the fraudulent sham that they are.

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Inspiration: Tsar Alexander III. The Tsar, despite having only a very small amount of Russian blood, was considered to resemble a muzhik (Russian peasant). His warm, bear-like presence was deceptive however; he was a dedicated reactionary and overturned most of his father's liberalizing measures:

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I agree with you, in theory. However, any attempt to reestablish absolute rule in the 21st century is a sure fire recipe for a republic.
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To be fair, I think this is the plan of May and the remainer leadership.

More seriously, I'd love to see more power for the monarchy (though I am not sure we need to actually do away with parliament completely), but, as Jovan says, that would likely lead to a republic.
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