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jovan66102

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Often times, republicans disguise themselves as 'royalists'. 
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The journalist and monarchist Geoffrey Wheatcroft says Charles has too many controversial views and the throne needs to skip a generation.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39258806



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'Monarchy can easily be ‘debunked;' but watch the faces, mark the accents of the debunkers. These are the men whose tap-root in Eden has been cut: whom no rumour of the polyphony, the dance, can reach - men to whom pebbles laid in a row are more beautiful than an arch. Yet even if they desire equality, they cannot reach it. Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.' C.S. Lewis God save Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, etc.! Vive le Très haut, très puissant et très excellent Prince, Louis XX, Par la grâce de Dieu, Roi de France et de Navarre, Roi Très-chrétien!
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I listened to Mr Wheatcroft's not very convincing arguments. He perhaps might have researched his subject a little better; he says he understands that the Prince wishes to continue publicly expounding his views on controversial subjects once monarch, but in fact His Royal Highness has acknowledged at least once (in an interview I watched) and most probably other times that this would not be possible. I can't say he looked happy about because he didn't, but he did acknowledge its truth.

It would have been better no doubt if the Prince had followed the pattern of his mother, before as well as after accession, by saying virtually nothing ever about anything that could remotely be considered political. The Duke of Cambridge, perhaps learning from his father's experience, has done (or not done, however you want to put it) exactly that. But while I disagree with many of the Prince's known views, there has never been anything that is a position no reasonable person could hold, and never anything that suggests unfitness for the Throne.

In fact it is lingering Dianamania and that alone which fuels opposition to the Prince's lawful succession to the position he was born to hold. Like Mr Wheatcroft at the end, I say God Save the Queen, but unlike him I continue God Save the next three Kings also, and whatever successors by law and lineage they may have.
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My comment on Facebook when I posted this story:
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Does this half witted numpty not realise that is NOT how a hereditary monarchy works, and that it would take the unanimous consent of all the Commonwealth Realms and all ten Provinces of Canada to gut the Constitution and overturn the Act of Succession, 1701, in the way he suggests?

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'Monarchy can easily be ‘debunked;' but watch the faces, mark the accents of the debunkers. These are the men whose tap-root in Eden has been cut: whom no rumour of the polyphony, the dance, can reach - men to whom pebbles laid in a row are more beautiful than an arch. Yet even if they desire equality, they cannot reach it. Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.' C.S. Lewis God save Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, etc.! Vive le Très haut, très puissant et très excellent Prince, Louis XX, Par la grâce de Dieu, Roi de France et de Navarre, Roi Très-chrétien!
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I think you meant the Act of Settlement. That only applied to England and Ireland, but the later Scottish Act of Union contained the same provisions. You are correct of course that the agreement of all the Realms would be needed for any alteration of the succession, as it was when Edward VIII abdicated and when the succession changed to equal primogeniture (plus a few other bits and pieces, like marriage to Catholics no longer being disqualifying). But I don't expect there will be any alteration for this cause.
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HRH's views tend to be on a few issues that aren't usually partisan political ones. He expresses himself thoughtfully and is eminently reasonable. Are we really to believe that Charles's (largely correct) views on contemporary architecture or urban-sprawl disqualify him from the throne? That borders on the absurd. So far as Charles has expressed views that might cause partisan annoyance, it is some on the right that are more likely to be annoyed, and I hope they wouldn't wish to pass him over for that.

I actually like Charles having his say (though I admit I also agree with most of what he says).
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I think you meant the Act of Settlement.


You are, of course, correct, Peter. I was quite angry at the man's stupidity when I typed that, and I obviously didn't proofread it when I copied it here.

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'Monarchy can easily be ‘debunked;' but watch the faces, mark the accents of the debunkers. These are the men whose tap-root in Eden has been cut: whom no rumour of the polyphony, the dance, can reach - men to whom pebbles laid in a row are more beautiful than an arch. Yet even if they desire equality, they cannot reach it. Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.' C.S. Lewis God save Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, etc.! Vive le Très haut, très puissant et très excellent Prince, Louis XX, Par la grâce de Dieu, Roi de France et de Navarre, Roi Très-chrétien!
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