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https://villaludovisi.org/2018/03/25/in-memoriam-hsh-prince-nicolo-boncompagni-ludovisi-rome-21-january-1941-rome-8-march-2018/

Another royal death I had not noted earlier, HRH Prince Nicolò Francesco Boncompagni Ludovisi (1941-2018), head of the princely family of Piombino.
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My fullest condolences to such a distinguished family, his friends and many associates. I truly respected his work in keeping the family prominent in the post 1946 Italian environment, and for his work in preserving a slice of Roman history.
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John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount Norwich, died on the first of this month, news I didn't happen to see at the time but which caught my eye today. Better known as John Julius Norwich, under that name he was a prolific author of popular but nevertheless scholarly and thoroughly-researched histories, of which I possess one, The Kingdom in the Sun, an account of the Kingdom of Sicily from its founding to the end of the original de Hauteville dynasty. He also regularly appeared on broadcast media as both a historical expert and all-round personality. A descendant of William IV through his maternal grandmother, his title was inherited by his only son, Jason, now 3rd Viscount. As the new incumbent is 59 years old and unmarried and there are no other heirs, presumably the 3rd Viscount will also be the last.

The descent from William IV is necessarily illegitimate. Confusingly, his mother, herself a celebrated figure, is shown in the linked ancestry as being née Lady Diana Manners, but her father as no Duke of Rutland but rather one Henry Cust. In fact her official father was indeed the 8th Duke of Rutland. However, it seems generally accepted that while not as such illegitimate she was also not biologically the Duke's daughter, but rather that of the previously-mentioned gentleman. Anyway, I was sorry to hear of Lord Norwich's death, though he did have a long and I would think happy and fulfilled life. A sample lifted from the obituary I linked, which might amuse Catholic members despite its acerbic nature:

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Two thousand years of history was no obstacle, and his history of the popes appeared in 2011, with Norwich modestly claiming to have met only four (Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI and John Paul I). Despite such access, he was acerbic when necessary, condemning John Paul II’s 500-odd canonisations, and noting waspishly that “suddenly we have saints like other people have mice”.
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Thanks for posting the sad notice of John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount Norwich's recent passing. Many years ago, I checked his 3 volume History of Byzantium (now a classic) out of the library, and I spent many enjoyable hours reading it. He had an admirable knack for making ancient history both readable and interesting, even for non-historians. I actually possess a copy of his shorter Short History of Byzantium. 

His father, Duff Cooper, was created 1st Viscount Norwich. The 1st Viscount was a well-known diplomat of his time, and he was known for engaging in a number of extramarital affairs. His wife, a scion of ancient aristocracy, apparently tolerated them in good humor. When the subject was discreetly brought up, she was said to have replied  "....they are the flowers, but I am the tree....." . Duff Cooper was rumoured to have had an affair with American socialite Mary Susan (Jay) Patten  ( who was also married at the time, and later remarried again to Joseph Alsop V) . Many years later, Mary told her grown son that his actual biological father was Duff Cooper. To this day, the son, Bill Patten Jr.  now an elderly and respected author, who'd been raised as the son of William Patten Sr.,  isn't quite sure of his actual paternity. The 2nd Viscount himself seems  also  to have had a lively extramarital experience. I also read that Prince Charles appreciated his ability to make history so fascinating and interesting, and had him as a guest at house-parties at his Highgrove estate.

It's too bad that the Norwich Viscountcy will probably terminate at some future point.

I also read John Julius Norwich's Absolute Monarchs: A History of the Papacy,  enjoyed it very much, and hope to re-read it at some future time. John Paul II was certainly an energetic canonizer, one hopes that he didn't get carried away and substitute quantity for quality. 


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http://www.kliksamarinda.com/berita-8566-innalillahi-sultan-kutai-kartanegara-adji-muhammad-salehuddin-ii-mangkat.html

Muhammad Salehuddin II, Sultan of Kutai in Kalimantan (Borneo), Indonesia since 2001, has died. He was one of the many titled royals who gained recognition from Indonesia since 1998.
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It ought to be noted on this forum that Prinz Georg-Constantin of Saxe-Weimar & Eisenach died in a horseback-riding accident last June at Apethorpe Hall in Northamptonshire. Some sort of horse-race seems to have been taking place at the estate, in which he was participating.  He was about 41 years old, and apparently had no children, though he'd married a British girl a few years ago. Georg-Constantin was the only son of his father, Prinz Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe-Weimar & Eisenach, now in his seventies. Prinz Wilhelm's cousin is titular Grand Duke Michael of Saxe-Weimar & Eisenach, who is also elderly, with no sons. And so it seems that the Grand Ducal House of Saxe Weimar & Eisenach will become extinct when these two elderly dynasts pass on. Saxe Weimar is the senior line of the Wettin Dynasty, which makes its extinction all the more regrettable. I believe that the Ernestine Wettin House of Saxe-Meiningen will succeed as the next most senior line of the dynasty.
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I was sorry to hear that news, but thank you for bringing it to our attention. You are correct in what you say; the (for now) surviving Ernestine lines are, in order of seniority,  Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, Saxe-Meiningen and Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The first descends from the 17th-century Wilhelm, Duke of Saxe-Weimar, and the second two from two sons of his younger brother Ernst the Pious, Duke of Saxe-Gotha. As the Saxe-Meiningen progenitor was the elder their head would become senior of the entire House upon the Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach line's extinction. The Saxe-Meiningen line is though in some danger of suffering the same fate, which would leave Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (the most senior member of which is the Duke of Gloucester) as sole surving non-morganatic Wettin branch. However it has many male dynasts and has itself proliferated into several different branches, so a Wettinless world is not at all in prospect.
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The titular Thakore Sahib of Rajkot, Thakore Shri Manoharsinhji Pradumansinhji Jadeja Sahib died the other day.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ex-guj-finance-minister-manoharsinh-jadeja-dead/articleshow/65985092.cms
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Henri d’Orléans, comte de Paris, seen by many French monarchists as rightful King of France and Navarre, died on January 21st at the age of 85. His eldest son Prince François of Orléans, who was mentally disabled due to his mother suffering from toxoplasmosis during pregnancy, died in 2017 aged only 56, and naturally enough never married or had children. The heir to the titular Henri VII is therefore his second son Jean, duc de Vendôme, now known among supporters of the lawful Orléans succession as Jean IV.

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Henri d’Orléans, comte de Paris, seen by many French monarchists as rightful King of France and Navarre, died on January 21st at the age of 85. His eldest son Prince François of Orléans, who was mentally disabled due to his mother suffering from toxoplasmosis during pregnancy, died in 2017 aged only 56, and naturally enough never married or had children. The heir to the titular Henri VII is therefore his second son Jean, duc de Vendôme, now known among supporters of the lawful Orléans succession as Jean IV.

Well, I've always been an Orleanist, so Vive le Roi! Vive Jean IV, Roi de France et Navarre, Roi des Francais! That said, I am sad about the passing of Henri VII. He was such a gentleman. I watched him being interviewed on various television shows. I was so embarrassed for him watching one particular show. They showed him scant respect. I was very unimpressed by the way he was addressed. It will be interesting to see how the Gillets Jaunes react to his funeral. The Yellow Vesters are staunch republicans, but they might prefer an Orleanist state to the Rothschilds' corrupt French Fifth Republic.  
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Henri d’Orléans, comte de Paris, seen by many French monarchists as rightful King of France and Navarre, died on January 21st at the age of 85. His eldest son Prince François of Orléans, who was mentally disabled due to his mother suffering from toxoplasmosis during pregnancy, died in 2017 aged only 56, and naturally enough never married or had children. The heir to the titular Henri VII is therefore his second son Jean, duc de Vendôme, now known among supporters of the lawful Orléans succession as Jean IV.

Well, I've always been an Orleanist, so Vive le Roi! Vive Jean IV, Roi de France et Navarre, Roi des Francais! That said, I am sad about the passing of Henri VII. He was such a gentleman. I watched him being interviewed on various television shows. I was so embarrassed for him watching one particular show. They showed him scant respect. I was very unimpressed by the way he was addressed. It will be interesting to see how the Gillets Jaunes react to his funeral. The Yellow Vesters are staunch republicans, but they might prefer an Orleanist state to the Rothschilds' corrupt French Fifth Republic. 
 

The Duchesse de Vendôme is quoted as saying that the Count of Paris was preparing to head to the annual Mass in memory of the murder of King Louis XVI, when he complained of feeling unwell.  He then texted the organizers of the Mass that he was ill and would not be able to attend, and went to lie down.  He never got up.  He thus died on the anniversary of the execution of King Louis XVI.



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Well, I've always been an Orleanist, so Vive le Roi! Vive Jean IV, Roi de France et Navarre, Roi des Francais! That said, I am sad about the passing of Henri VII. He was such a gentleman. I watched him being interviewed on various television shows. I was so embarrassed for him watching one particular show. They showed him scant respect. I was very unimpressed by the way he was addressed. It will be interesting to see how the Gillets Jaunes react to his funeral. The Yellow Vesters are staunch republicans, but they might prefer an Orleanist state to the Rothschilds' corrupt French Fifth Republic. 
 

The Duchesse de Vendôme is quoted as saying that the Count of Paris was preparing to head to the annual Mass in memory of the murder of King Louis XVI, when he complained of feeling unwell.  He then texted the organizers of the Mass that he was ill and would not be able to attend, and went to lie down.  He never got up.  He thus died on the anniversary of the execution of King Louis XVI.


This is astonishing (Henri VII dying on the anniversary of the execution of Louis XVI).Maybe this is some kind of sign? Well he healed the wounds in the royal family created by his father Henri VI, by bringing his brothers & cousins back into the fold and recognizing their marriages. Charles De Gaulle at one time considered restoring the monarchy under Henri VI, but Henri got involved in a scandal which ruined his prospects, so De Gaulle established the Fifth Republic instead- which has now been corrupted  by  that lecherous banking dynasty, the Rothschilds. Rather have Jean IV any day than that Rothschild puppet Macron. No-one had ever heard of Macron before the Rothschilds put him in the Presidential Palace. Time to bring back the Orleanist Throne. The Orleanists were a workable compromise between the despotic absolute monarchy of Charles X and French republican ideals. Indeed had Philippe VII d'Orleans  been proposed instead of the arrogant Comte de Chambord, France might still have a monarchy today. A majority of the National Assembly were Bourbon monarchists after the fall of Napoleon III. But Chambord destroyed any respect the French public still had for the Capetian monarchy in France. I am going to check out the funeral of Henri VII on Youtube. 
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I really wish you'd keep your anti-Semitic bs out of this forum, Dom. And especially out of this thread. If you want to come back at me, start a thread somewhere else as I will ignore anything further you say here, not wanting to carry on an unseemly squabble in a virtual cemetery.
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I really wish you'd keep your anti-Semitic bs out of this forum, Dom. And especially out of this thread. If you want to come back at me, start a thread somewhere else as I will ignore anything further you say here, not wanting to carry on an unseem;y squabble in a virtual cemetery.
Nothing to do with anti-semitic ism. The Rothschilds brought down the Russian monarchy and have caused untold misery on this planet. I grew  up with Jews, I have a Jewish housekeeper, and a Jewish broker. Most Jews are very decent people. The Rothschilds are not authentic Jews, and orthodox Rabbis do not recognize them. They are Khazarians- a tribe in Southern Russia who converted to Judaism in the tenth century. The Rothschilds and their cousins the Schiff & Loeb families authorized the execution of the Czar and sixteen members of his family- this is documented in the Archive of the Soviet Union. They are behind Macron, and the cause of all the trouble and unhappiness being experienced by French taxpayers. 

You sir are ignorant, also incredibly arrogant. My late father was a professional investigative journalist who worked for several publications, this is how I know about all of this. I am not anti-semitic, and the Rothschilds are not authentic Jews. They are despised by Orthodox Torah observant Hebrew rabbis. These rabbis have published numerous videos  on the subject on Youtube. How can you call yourself a "Monarchist" and defend a family who vowed publicly to destroy the Romanov dynasty and then carried out their threats successfully. Where do you think all the money came from to fund the Russian Revolution, and the Red Terror? From Lenin & Trotsky's savings accounts? I don't think so. Do some research first before you call me or anyone else on this forum anti-semitic. 
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The Prince of the Yezidi people passes away. RIP

http://waarmedia.com/english/yezidi-leader-mir-tahseen-beg-dies-at-age-86/
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