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KYMonarchist you are only 17 years of age.I admire you for being interested in Monarchy and you are serious and you know many things already.But better report on Birthdays and Weddings and other Anniversaries of the Noble and Royal Families.Why are you so preoccupied with the dead?I mean those that crossed over to the other side?Report about those Nobles and Royals living now in our planet Earth! Start reporting and posting the Birthdays and Weddings and all other events in the Noble and Royal Families.and their dates of Birthdays and their mail addresses so as we can to send them a Christmas Card or a Birthday Card.Thanks! I hope you do that. I already posted the mail addresses of Queen Elisabeth II and Prince Charles and his Family.Let someone else post something similar for other Royal or Noble Families.I will be glad to send them a Card or a letter of support.
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Cornelius, the source I use for this thread in Wikipedia's list of Deaths in 2007, which can be accessed from the Main Page. Wikipedia has nothing similar for births or weddings and I don't have the time to go look for other sources. I'm still in school.


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They have seats in the Lords (that is why the were 'invented' in the UK anyway).
But their blood has not been 'enobled' as their heirs aren't peers.

It leaves me confused.


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It's simple. They are nobility, but not hereditary nobility. Just think of the peers as being in two main classes, with hereditary superior. It might be argued that there is no distinction in status between life and hereditary peers, but in practice there is: all life peers are barons, therefore inferior to all the hereditary peers apart from other barons. And since status within a class of the peerage goes with seniority, and hereditary baronages are no longer created, life peers are inferior to all the hereditary barons too.

Baronetcies muddy the water. They are a hereditary title of knighthood, but not peerages. Forget about them, just think about the hereditary peerage in its various divisions, followed by the life peers.
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Philip Allen, Baron Allen of Abbeydale, died on Tuesday at the age of 95. He was born on July 8th, 1912, and began his career in politics in 1934. That lasted until 1972. In 1976, he was created Baron Allen of Abbeydale, of the City of Sheffield. He sat in the House of Lords as a crossbencher.


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James Miles Venne, former chief of the Lac La Ronge Band (First Nations) died on November 28th, 2007. He was 89. He served as chief of the Lac La Ronge Band from 1971 to 1983 and a second time from 1985 to 1987. I don't know who the current chief of the Lac La Ronge Band is.


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I think that this is a RoyaltyMonarchy Forum not a Nobility or other Forum! I think we should devote our time and think and talk about the present Royals and Monarchs and how to keep them in power and about the Restoration of the Royals and Monarchs that have been overthrown how to restore them on their Thrones again.And Who's Who in the World of Royalty.Also we should post photos or other pics of thr Royals often and post links and news about them.Also we should talk about Royal History as as it is connected with the present times and the present Royalty and it is going to contribute to the preservation and restoration of Monarchies.Talking about the past without linking it or connecting to the present times and the present Royals Reigning or non-Reigning it is no useful at all.Some of my thoughts.
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George VII,

If you don't want to read about noble deaths don't read a tread with noble deaths in the title.....


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Baron it is a "thread" not a "tread"!.[I know you meant thread!] I just expressed some thoughts of mine I do not mean that you should not read them or not write them as long as our good  Moderator allows it.You can post anything about any subject!  I simply expressed in what I am interest in.Of course I read only what interests me and sometimes other members post long posts or shorts ones about matters that I have no time to be engaged in debates or I am not interest in them at all.
Here in the Forum it is the same with all the Forum members I presume.
So if anyone says he is not interest in something that does not mean that you should not post it or prevent or urge others not to read it or reply it.Have a nice day Baron and a Merry Christmas!P.S.

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Thanks for the spelling error auto-correction.  I have issues enough with spelling when I write, when I type it is worse...

No you didn't simply express what you are interested in. 
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...Talking about the past without linking it or connecting to the present times and the present Royals Reigning or non-Reigning it is no useful at all...


Merry Christmas to you as well, and I hope your days go well for you.


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Merry Christmas BaronVonServers also and to all your great Baron's family of yours! You know how to debate your point view and defend it! You have a sense of humor also and you make me smile and laugh sometimes with your witty replies!
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Rainer von Schilling, a publisher from Baden-Wurttemberg, died on December 6th, 2007. He was born in 1935. Given the presence of the 'von' particle in his name, he was probably of a noble family of the former Grand Duchy of Baden.


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Stop wasting your time and our time and the space with the Obituaries! It is Christmas time! find the addresses of the Royal and Princely Families of Europe and post them to send them some Christmas and New Years wishes.The living need you not the dead!
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It is really sad that people are thinking in Death,instead in the Birth of our Lord!
Merry Cristhmas and Happy 2008!


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Cornelius, I am not forcing anyone to look at this thread.

TheRoyalist, the whole reason I am doing on this thread is to keep us informed of the passing of various European royals and nobles. I use Wikipedia's tracker for deaths as my source. They have no known tracker for births. Also, you mispelled Christmas.

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