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This might be premature (which is why I'll pin the thread so it stays easily accessible), but I'm leaving for the UK four weeks from today and thought I'd create this thread while I have some time to do so.  The main purpose of posting this is to facilitate contact with our UK members; I hope to meet as many of you as possible!  The secondary purpose is simply to inform those like Baron who have expressed interest in what I'm doing.  I am already quite excited about this trip; it will be even better if I get to spend some time with our British members.

Please let me know sometime within the next month if and when you might be able to attend a service I'm singing and perhaps get together afterwards or at another time, either via replying to this thread or e-mail.  It would be especially nice if several of us could meet at once at some point in London!  Also, my tentative plan for my first free day in London, Wednesday July 29, is to visit Buckingham and Hampton Court palaces; it would be great to have royalist company for such an excursion if anyone is interested. 

I don't expect to be reachable by phone when in the UK; while I hopefully will have chances to check e-mail and the forum, it would be great if I could have some idea of who I can expect to see and when & where before I leave on July 18.  Service times should be available at the websites.  For our specific musical programmes at Lichfield and Westminster click on "Music List."

Tour I: Choir of the Church of the Incarnation
(men and women)

July 18 (Sat): Depart Dallas
July 19 (Sun): Arrive London (Heathrow); coach ride to Lichfield

July 20-26: Choir in residence at Lichfield Cathedral
(Music List)
Evensong daily except for Thursday 23 July (free day in Lichfield)
Eucharist & Evensong Sunday 26 July

July 27-August 2: Choir in residence at Westminster Abbey
Hotel: Royal Horseguards
(Music List)
Evensong daily except for Wednesday 29 July (free day in London)
Matins, Eucharist, & Evensong Sunday 2 August

August 3-6: I will be staying with veteran monarchist Gregory Lauder-Frost in Berwick-upon-Tweed.


Tour II: Choir of St. Mark's School of Texas
(men and boys)

August 6-9: Rehearsals at Bruern Abbey in Chesterton; sightseeing in Oxford; men stay in Bicester

August 10-14: Choir in residence at Chichester Cathedral
Evensong Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri

August 15-18: Choir in residence at Southwark Cathedral, London

Evensong Sat, Sun, Mon, Tue
Eucharist Sunday 16 August

August 19 (Wed): Concert (noon) at Canterbury Cathedral


August 20 (Thu): Depart London (Heathrow)
August 20 (Thu): Arrive Dallas


There, I hope that's helpful for UK members and at least sort of interesting for other members.  I can't wait!




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Just a reminder that I'm leaving a week from tomorrow and hope to see those of you who live in the UK.  I'm posting my schedule on Facebook as well.

Peter?  Noachian?  GBoleyn?  Phil?  

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Gboleyn is in the US until the 14th. LJ also comes to London sometimes, I don't know where he's based, maybe somewhere nearer to one of your other locations, but I would love to meet him, as I would you and the others. Either the Westminster Abbey or Southwark Cathedral residencies would obviously be the easiest for me to get to. I'll PM you my telephone number, as it might be easier to arrange something once you're here. Or if others can make it and say so on this thread and a date is arranged, I'm pretty sure to be able to fall in with it.

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Thanks.  Incidentally, could you please explain UK phone numbers to me?  I don't understand why they don't all look the same (in terms of grouping and number of digits).  I now have four UK telephone numbers (including yours; the other three are of people not on this forum) and they all seem to be in slightly different formats, though all are in England.

(All US telephone numbers, whether traditional or mobile, are in the format xxx-xxx-xxxx, the first three digits being the area code and the other seven being the local number.)

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The format varies. In mine, the first three digits are the area code, so you could ignore them within London. The next four give the telephone district (though in fact I don't live in that district, I took the number with me when I moved) and the last four are my unique number within the district. But for example I have a friend who lives near St Albans who has a five-digit area code then a six-digit personal number. My format is universal in London, but is not necessarily to be expected elsewhere.

By the way, a lot of people get the London format wrong, including in print. There is only one London area code, 020, then all the telephone districts start 7 for inner London or 8 for outer. So people write or print numbers as though London had two area codes, 0207 and 0208. It does not.
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I am likely to be in London one of the days when you will be singing at the Abbey.  I guess Thursday 30th would probably be easiest for me, if the plan was to attend evensong and then go for a drink or something.

Hope the tour goes well.
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Good news, LJ. I'm sure I could make that date too, though I'm not quite so sure about Evensong! How long does it usually take? If it's not hours I would go, and in any case could meet you two and anyone else who can make it after.

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Half an hour, maybe a bit more.  It really isn't that bad, and if I as a papist can attend...!

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Half an hour's fine, and I guess it would be rude to royalcello not to attend. I hope it all works out, would be great to meet you!

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That sounds great--July 30 is also when I'm meeting Don Foreman (for lunch and a visit to the nearby Household Calvary Museum), who plans to then attend Evensong as well, so perhaps the four of us could go out afterwards!    LJ's estimate of Evensong duration sounds about right, perhaps closer to 45 minutes than 30, but certainly not "hours"!  Let's plan on meeting on Thursday 30 July at the Abbey after Evensong (suggestion for specific location?  it's a big place), probably close to 6:00 as I'll have to first remove my vestments etc.--other UK members who haven't responded yet would of course be welcome as well.
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It would be good to see Don again.

How about at the west end, near the tomb of the Unknown Soldier?
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All right, Unknown Soldier it is.

By the way, this is what we'll be singing in the Abbey on 30 July; it just so happens that these particular Canticles are sung in Latin--perfect for "papists"! 

Introit: Purcell Hear My Prayer, O Lord
Responses: Rose
Canticles: Pärt Magnificat, Holst Nunc Dimittis
Anthem: Bairstow I sat down under His Shadow
Psalms 75, 76; Chant: Lloyd, Garret

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Meeresstille und glückliche Fahrt, Theodore. I know, you're not coming by boat, but it seemed an appropriately musical way to wish you a safe and pleasant journey! I'm looking forward very much to meeting you and the others Thursday week, even though it will be my second church service attended inside a fortnight (my great-niece's christening is tomorrow), which seems odd...

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Thanks Peter; looking forward to meeting you!

I hope everyone behaves themselves while my internet access is more sporadic than usual. 
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I hope for a more solemn occasion at Westminster Abbey than at St Anne's Parish Church today. The vicar was totally jokey and informal, and so was the service. In his homily he let us all know that baptism had nothing to do with the salvation of souls, "if one person goes to Heaven, we all go". Oh yes? I think a few here might disagree, also with baptism being "a rite of passage, an initiation ceremony." As my great-niece Chloe is all of seven weeks old, I reckon the baptism should have been deferred in that case.

The hymns didn't impress either, the ludicrous kiddy song/advertising jingle He's Got The Whole World In His Hand and Parry's fine setting of Blake's interesting but typically odd poem Jerusalem, which is not in fact a hymn. Like I said, I hope for better things at Westminster Abbey, and expect to get them. Perhaps even a priest who believes in his own religion. I know I'm an atheist and all, but if I make the effort to attend a Christian service is a Christian priest too much to ask? Apparently.

On the up side, my great-niece, whom I hadn't previously seen, is utterly gorgeous. Still looking forward to Thursday week, even more actually, as I felt a bit cheated today.
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