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I'm very glad to hear that Jovan does not call for genocide.
Personally, the Kosovo question would be solved by me by giving it to the House of Wied, as I don't think the majority of Kosovars would go for Albanian or Serbian rule. Besides, the House of Wied needs something.
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Originally Posted by
KYMonarchist I'm very glad to hear that Jovan does not call for genocide. If you had the intelligence God gave a pissant you would never had made the baseless, slanderous accusation in the first place.
Originally Posted by
KYMonarchist Personally, the Kosovo question would be solved by me by giving it to the House of Wied, as I don't think the majority of Kosovars would go for Albanian or Serbian rule. Besides, the House of Wied needs something. Did you pay ANY attention in 2008 when 'Kosovo' declared its 'independence'? There were pictures all over the media of flag waving mobs celebrating in the streets of Kosovo. I looked in vain for a Kosovo flag. Every flag I was able to discern was an Albanian flag and since one is blue and the other red it was easy to tell. __________________ 'Monarchy can easily be ‘debunked;' but watch the faces, mark the accents of the debunkers. These are the men whose tap-root in Eden has been cut: whom no rumour of the polyphony, the dance, can reach - men to whom pebbles laid in a row are more beautiful than an arch. Yet even if they desire equality, they cannot reach it. Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.' C.S. Lewis God save Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, etc.! Vive le Très haut, très puissant et très excellent Prince, Louis XX, Par la grâce de Dieu, Roi de France et de Navarre, Roi Très-chrétien!
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Leka II bio was recently added to the website of the office of the President of Albania. They refer to him as Prince Leka Zogu II on the website so im guessing the Albanian government recognizes the royal titles:
http://president.al/?p=308 __________________ "Throughout my reign I will never rule you as a King. I will protect you as a parent, care for you as a brother and serve you as a son. I shall give you everything and keep nothing; I shall live such a life as a good human being that you may find it worthy to serve as an example for your children; I have no personal goals other than to fulfill your hopes and aspirations. I shall always serve you, day and night, in the spirit of kindness, justice and equality."
- His Majesty King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck Coronation Address to the Nation, 6 November 2008
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Here's an interesting familial connection, traceable on
Genealogics, between Prince Leka II of Albania and Lord Freddy Windsor of Kent (they share a great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather): Graf (Count) Georg Christian von Waldstein (d. 1791), father of: Maria (von Waldstein) (d. 1813), mother of: Franciska (Karolyi de Nagy-Karoly) , mother of: Zsofia (Sztaray de Sztara et Nagy-Mihaly) (d. 1897), mother of: Graf Lajos Apponyi de Nagy-Appony (d. 1909), father of: Graf Gyula Apponyi de Nagy-Appony (d. 1924), father of: Queen-Consort Geraldine (Apponyi de Nagy-Appony) of Albania (d. 2002), mother of: Prince Leka I of Albania (d. 2011), father of: Prince Leka II of Albania Graf (Count) Georg Christian von Waldstein (d. 1791), father of: Wilhelmine (von Waldheim) (d. 1849), mother of: Fuerst Franz von Colloredo-Mannsfeld (d. 1852), father of: Wilhelmine (von Colloredo-Mannsfeld) (d. 1898), mother of: Marie (von Auersperg) (d. 1933), mother of: Hedwig (zu Windisch-Graetz) (d. 1918), mother of: Marianne (Szapary de Muraszombath) (d. 1988), mother of: Marie Christine (von Reibnitz) (b. 1946), mother of: Lord Freddy Windsor of Kent __________________ Dis Aliter Visum "Beware of martyrs and those who would die for their beliefs; for they frequently make many others die with them, often before them, sometimes instead of them."
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I am sure that what happened to Yugoslavia at the end of the 20th century was not accidental. This is God's Kara for what Serbia did in 1914. Serbian scoundrel and murderer Gavril Princip killed the Grand Duke Franz Ferdinand. Serbia not only did not extradite the murderer, but also defended him. Because of the shot in Sarajevo, the World War caught fire; as a result of this war four (!) Empires have disappeared! They lost the crown of the Habsburgs, the Hohenzollerns, the Romanovs and the Sultan. Because of the Great War, into which Serbia has drawn Russia, our Emperor Nicholas II was killed. And we in Rossiti always said:
"God, punish Serbia!"
I am very glad that Yugoslavia is no more. I am very pleased that there is an independent Montenegro, an independent Croatia and an independent Macedonia. Historically, in these states there was the Monarchy, and I hope that the dynasty of the Negros will reign over time, the descendants of King Tomislav of Croatia, and the descendants of Count Gyula Chesnek-Milvan in Macedonia will rule. I also hope that the Hungarian land of Vojvodina will be returned to the Hungarian State.
Serbia continues to honor the memory of the murderer Gavrila Princip, and even puts him monuments today. This is the same abomination as monuments to Stalin in Russia. Serbia has lost all moral right to respect. __________________ Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam!
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While I agree that it is contemptible to erect monuments to the murderer Gavrilo Princip, he was a Bosnian Serb so an Austrian not Serbian subject. Also, the question of extradition did not arise, he was captured at the scene and remained in Austrian hands until his miserable life ended. While there unquestionably were Serbs from that kingdom involved in the conspiracy, the extent of official Serbian knowledge and support has always been disputed. I naturally don't think that karma had a great deal to do with the tragedies of the Yugoslavian civil wars. Finally, there are no known descendants of King Tomislav of Croatia, unless you mean the Savoy-Aosta Tomislav II. Which I suspect you don't.
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Yes, that's right: I'm talking about Prince of Savoy Tomislav II. Probably, your embarrassment is caused by the fact that he was connected with the Mussolini regime? I do not think that this is a serious obstacle: King Tomislav II was de jure King of the Independent State of Croatia, he was the Crown of Croats and Bosniacs, he belonged to the Royal House. And the fact that he received the Crown due to the odious Mussolini, does not matter: it was he who was the last King of Croatia.
Now - a few words about the scoundrel Gavrilo Princip. Yes, he was a Bosnian Serb, and was a subject of the Empire. But the threads of the conspiracy went to Belgrade, and it is well known. Karageorgievich came to power after the regicide: on their hands - the blood of King Alexander Obrenovic and Queen Draghi. After the Karageorgievichi established themselves on the p.restal, Serbia constantly provoked wars in the Balkans. And today in Serbia the scoundrel Gavril the Principle is put monuments, they call the streets in his honor, they consider him a national hero ... How can you treat Serbia then?
__________________ Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam!