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The feuding Kenyan factions have agreed on a powersharing deal which would create a Prime Minister post. I think the best way to prevent the violence from returning would be for Kenya to become a Commonwealth Realm as it was before 1964.

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While they're at it bring back the old flag, gules lions rampant are cool.

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Rather nice.
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I don't think the Kenyans would want to give up their presidency.  Kenya has been largely a success story (except for the recent episode) as a Republic within the Commonwealth.  I am not a fan of foriegn non-resident monarchs, and prefer local monarchies with strong ties to domestic traditions.  I would except places such as Canada and Australia since the dominant culture is Anglo-European.


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I think that indegenous and foreign monarchy can coexist. A perfect example is the Maori King in New Zealand.

If a Native Kenyan were to be crowned King of Kenya there would be tremendous upheaval amongs the various groups to get their man on the throne. This would happen in any country. Look at all the wars in Europe that have been fought over succession. Look at the fierce debate on this forum between Orleanists and Legitimists.

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Would subnational Kings accepting the 'paramount status' of Her Majesty be fitting for Kenya?

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The debate is not strictly between Orleanists and Legitimists. An Orleanist to me would be one who supported succession to Louis Philippe I as King of the French. I most certainly do not, but support the succession of his heir as King of France and Navarre, from what I believe to be the Legitimist standpoint. That is what the debate is about, what is the proper Legitimist standpoint.

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Considering the great respect that the majority of Kenyans, including their leaders, have for Her Britannic Majesty, the option of sub-national Kings accepting Elizabeth II as "Paramount Monarch" would probably be very fitting.


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The Queen remains acknowledged Paramount Chieftain of Fiji, even though the islands are no longer among her realms. I don't see why it wouldn't work, though that isn't the same thing as expecting it to happen.

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It is one more thing I can hope for that isn't 'utterly impossible....'

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A few days ago (Sep.1, 2017) the Kenyan Supreme Court invalidated the results of the August presidential election in Kenya. Uhuru Kenyatta (son of Jomo Kenyatta, the nation's first president), the incumbent president, had earlier been proclaimed the winner, in a closely contested vote. His opponent, Raila Odinga (son of Oginga Odinga, the nation's first vice-president) had requested an investigation into perceived irregularities in the election. This seems to be the first time that an African nation has invalidated the results of a presidential election. The Kenyan Supreme Court has ruled that a new election must now shortly take place. Demonstrators have been protesting the election results ever since it took place, and the body of one of the administrators of the agency preparing for and overseeing the election was discovered bearing signs of beating and torture in July.

Uhuru Kenyatta and Raila Odinga seem to be continuing the rivalry that characterized their fathers' terms of office, after Kenya first became an independent nation in 1963. Possibly some of the elder Kenyatta's and Odinga's rivalry was based on tribal affiliation (Kenyatta was a Kikuyu and Odinga was a Luo). It seems that the rivalry between these leading Kenyan families has been perpetuated in their sons. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It possibly bodes well for the future rule of law in Kenya that the incumbent government, albeit grudgingly, appears to have accepted the Court ruling.

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