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DavidV

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Is there anything the identity politics freaks aren't going to make an issue out of? They are trying to divide and destroy us all:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html
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This has gone too far.

If half-Nigerian Shirley Bassey can own a blackamoor and find it decorative and harmless, they are OK as far as I'm concerned. Yes they represent a time and a place, but so do crucifixions, Dutch still lives with tulips that no longer exist, pictures of the dodo, referring to homosexual people (I am one) as "uranists" and other fruity language, opening doors for women, remembering that "enormity" is a catastrophe, not another word for "greatness in size".....Aaaaaargh.

Anyway, the brooch is beautiful, beautifully crafted, and in no way should it be "retired".

Bring Back the Blackamoor! And Aldermen, and knighthoods, and the Loyal Toast, and, and...
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/linda-burney-proposes-replacing-queens-birthday-with-indigenous-celebration/news-story/3a8e9c274a94a3b16ef4ac4a490b7ac2

We see identity politics posturing from Linda Burney which was more or less an attack on the monarchy. I'm not wrong when I say that Prince Harry's engagement to Meghan Markle isn't going to change the opinions of these people (i.e. the Left and the identity politics crowd) towards the monarchy, the Royal Family and our British heritage, and our Royal Family need to be aware that it may be pointless to appease people who will never be won over.

God Save the Queen.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/linda-burney-proposes-replacing-queens-birthday-with-indigenous-celebration/news-story/3a8e9c274a94a3b16ef4ac4a490b7ac2

We see identity politics posturing from Linda Burney which was more or less an attack on the monarchy. I'm not wrong when I say that Prince Harry's engagement to Meghan Markle isn't going to change the opinions of these people (i.e. the Left and the identity politics crowd) towards the monarchy, the Royal Family and our British heritage, and our Royal Family need to be aware that it may be pointless to appease people who will never be won over.

God Save the Queen.



Can you copy the article ? It wants me to subcribe for a substantial fee before it will show me anything.
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Linda Burney proposes replacing Queen’s birthday with indigenous celebration

Labor frontbencher Linda Burney has proposed replacing the Queen’s Birthday with a national holiday to celebrate Australia’s indigenous heritage and says she finds it “difficult” to be involved in Australia Day celebrations, despite maintaining that her party’s “clear position” is for the date of Australia Day to remain the same.

The first indigenous woman elected to the House of Representatives repeatedly said Labor’s policy on Australia Day was “very clear”, despite leader Bill Shorten refusing to issue a statement about his views, and Ms Burney yesterday describing the day as “problematic”.

Ms Burney said Australia Day represented “the usurping of Aboriginal culture” and was an “attack on sovereignty” when asked to clarify Labor’s position, calling for the Turnbull government to reverse its decision last year to reject the Uluru Statement from indigenous leaders, calling for recognition of indigenous Australians in the constitution.

“The Labor Party’s position is this: is that there is no proposal to change the date, and we are saying that this Australia Day there needs to be a massive undertaking by Australians to think deeply about the truth and the true history of this country and it be a day of reflection and absolute recognition that Australia Day is an extremely painful day for First Australians, that represents to the First Australians the usurping of Australian culture, Aboriginal culture, the attack on sovereignty in many ways,” Ms Burney told ABC radio.

“That’s why we’re saying that this Australia Day should be putting back on the agenda what the Turnbull government has taken off, and that is the referendum that recognises first people and the process of truth-telling.”

Asked whether she supported a national celebration of indigenous culture being held on a different day, Ms Burney proposed replacing the Queen’s Birthday.

“Being a pragmatist as I try to be, the date (of Australia Day) is not going to change any time soon. I think that’s very clear,” she said.

“But what we’re advocating, and what I’m advocating particularly within my own party, is that we actually, and with Martin Luther King Day yesterday in America, is that Australia should have a national public holiday that celebrates, that lifts up, that recognises our first nation’s peoples, first nation’s stories, and I think that would be a day that everyone could absolutely get behind, and there are number of dates that lend themselves to having that sort of wonderful recognition in Australia finally, that there is a national day, a public holiday, where all Australians can celebrate First Australians and the extraordinary, wonderful, unique history we have in this country of human occupation which is over 60,000 years.

“This is something that I’m advocating very strongly within the Labor Party.”

Asked whether she had a date in mind, Ms Burney said: “I note that Luke Foley, who is the leader of the Labor Party in New South Wales, is advocating a national public holiday recognising indigenous people and trading off the Queen’s Birthday as the day.”

Ms Burney said the 26th of January hadn’t officially become Australia Day until 1994.

“I was really involved in the 1988 bicentennial protest movement and I also want to make a very big point this morning that in 1938 the Aboriginal Progressive Association met in Sydney on the 26th of January very deliberately to call for not only basic human rights, but also a recognition of the truth about what’s happened in this country,” she said.

Ms Burney said she found it difficult to be involved in Australia Day celebrations.

“Yes, I do find it difficult. I have been as I’ve said involved in this debate for 30 years, and the way in which I approach Australia Day is, particularly as a member of parliament over the last 15 years, is I do attend formal Australia Day functions, and I cannot think of one in the last five or six years where there has not been proper recognition of Aboriginal protocol and culture,” she said.

Ms Burney said she usually attended the Wagulora indigenous cleansing ceremony at dawn in Sydney’s Barangaroo, as well as the Yabun “survival” festival in the afternoon on January 26.

“I attend formal functions and have noted very much that they’ve changed dramatically in terms of recognising the truth.

“I also attend the functions that are organised as part of the official program, but certainly from the point of view of being survival day.”

Asked to comment on indigenous Alice Springs councillor Jacinta Price’s comments that calls from white men such as tennis star Pat Cash and Greens leader Richard Di Natale to change the date of Australia Day were an “easy option to alleviate white guilt”, Ms Burney declined to comment.

“I have listened to Pat Cash yesterday on the radio and I was very impressed that he’d come to his position from the experience of seeing the poverty and the deprivation experienced by Aboriginal people in the communities he’d been to, and his was a considered position,” she said.

“I also watched the 7.30 report on the ABC last night, and I don’t come from the Northern Territory and don’t pretend to know a lot about the Northern Territory, and Jacinta Price’s position was in relation to the Territory celebrating together. I won’t make comment on that.”

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Be aware, however, that Linda Burney is an intellectual lightweight and generally maintains a profile by waving her hands and shouting "look at me".
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It seems that the future Princess Henry of Wales has some rather nasty relatives.  So thirsty for attention these Markles.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5683559/Meghan-Markles-brother-warns-Prince-Harry-biggest-mistake-royal-wedding-history.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/953446/Meghan-Markle-royal-wedding-2018-latest-sister-demands-homeless-given-steak-dinner

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Happily Prince Harry is marrying Meghan Markle, not her low-life relatives. I don't think any notice at all need be taken of their whining. As for their complaints about not being invited to the wedding, would anyone who had relatives like that invite them to theirs? I really don't think so.
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The letter was hurriedly scrawled on cheap yellow notepad paper, contains grammatical errors and misspellings, and was shared with an entertainment magazine that deals in celebrity gossip. It's obviously a ploy on the part of the paternal family to draw attention to themselves and capitalize upon whatever publicity and fame  will accrue to them from the upcoming wedding. The Dailymail article makes no mention of the half-brother's employment or career, if indeed he has any, though his arrest-record is amply set forth. Ms. Markle was raised in a rather affluent middle-class environment, and blended families resulting from divorces, extramarital-relationships, etc. are nowadays  commonplace  in many families of all backgrounds.  Still, it seems that they are in the process of descending into the category of social milieu that the tabloids refer to as "trailer-trash". It is understandable that she may wish to minimize her contact with them.

Nevertheless, they remain Ms. Markle's biological relatives, and that connection, for whatever it may be worth, will always be there. It would be prudent to invite them to the wedding, comfortably and suitably accomodated, but kept in the background away from any close scrutiny.

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Happily Prince Harry is marrying Meghan Markle, not her low-life relatives. I don't think any notice at all need be taken of their whining. As for their complaints about not being invited to the wedding, would anyone who had relatives like that invite them to theirs? I really don't think so.


I wouldn't invite them to the opening of an envelope.

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It would be prudent to invite them to the wedding, comfortably and suitably accomodated, but kept in the background away from any close scrutiny.


I see your point Windemere, perhaps space could still be made for them in a crypt under the chapel somewhere...

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Ms. Markel's paternal relatives have been displaying their complete lack of decorum as the wedding approaches.  Now even her father has been accused of staging paparazzi photo-ops for money.  Her half sister has claimed she was the one who came up with the idea, and that she did it "for the benefit of the Royal family".  How the man will face tea with the Queen after this stunt, something that was reportedly making him nervous before all this, God only knows.  

The Markel family have displayed every sort of awful behavior that rankles other countries about Americans.  They have been embarrassing, and I feel for Meghan Markel.  Thankfully her mother and her side of the family have been quite discrete.  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5726289/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-takes-blame-fathers-staged-paparazzi-photos.html


UPDATE: In the aftermath of the embarrassment of his staged photographs, Mr. Markel has announced that he will not be attending his daughter's wedding as he has recently suffered a heart attack.  However, the press is noting that he never sought medical attention on the day that he supposedly had this heart attack, and two days later was seen getting a Happy Meal at a McDonald's.   Other members of Ms. Markel's family have apparently arrived in London even thought they were not invited to the wedding. Tracy Dooley, the estranged wife of Meghan's brother Thomas Markle Jr, was spotted at  Heathrow Airport, with her two sons Tyler and Thomas.  The three are set to appear on Good Morning Britain as part of the morning show's royal wedding coverage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5728103/Meghan-Markles-father-says-NOT-attend-Royal-Wedding-suffered-heart-attack.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5728219/Meghans-nephews-sister-law-touch-Heathrow.html

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What a mess. Some in-laws.

I miss the days when royalty married royalty, or at least aristocracy. (Yes, I know Diana had the perfect background on paper--apart from her parents' divorce--and that didn't work out, but, still.)

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The Royal Family will never win over some people:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/irish-hotel-cancels-harry-and-meghan-wedding-event-after-complaints-by-republicans-36902508.html

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2012961715621210&set=gm.969860226514448&type=3&theater&ifg=1
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Mr. Markel now says he'd like to come to his daughter's wedding and give her away, if his doctors let him fly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5732077/Meghan-Markles-father-changes-mind-wants-come-wedding-doctors-let-him.html

I usually find Piers Morgan irritating, but I'm with him on this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5730265/Piers-Morgan-brands-Meghan-Markles-half-sister-little-vulture.html

Her ex-husband has apparently been dissuaded from cashing in on this marriage as well...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5732687/Meghan-Markle-persuades-ex-husband-hold-embarrassing-TV-show.html

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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I keep saying this. Our Royal Family is never going to win over some people, no matter what gestures and concessions they make:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/17/sheffield-lord-mayor-reject-toast-queen/
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